Thanks Andrew
I haven't used essential dignities in footie charts but I'm very impressed by your use of them including almuten and reception as your reasoning makes good sense.

Anonther few words re. the Rading-Spurs match. Spurs have shown some sparks of late. An notice how Jupiter, L7, is vazarite and in a situation of joy. This is mentioned by Al-biruni as the situation that occurs when a planet comes out of the Sun's Beams. There is a reception by triplicity between Jupiter, L7, and the Moon, AL10.

The antiscia from the Moon to Asc, spotted by Gem, has scared the wits out of me, but the Moon is not essentially dignified in the chart.
I noticed in the Valencia game that let me down the other day, where POF/POS 3 SC cast it's antiscia to the des - this was the degree of the moon's fall - so Valencia were misfortuned an collected a pack of Yellow Cards instead!!

I queried this previously, does the cusp aspect the planet or vice versa?

It depends whether you prefer symbolic time (planet aspects cusp) or real time (cusp aspects planet). As far as conjunctions to angles are concerned, when planets are on the cadent side they are very iffy. They need to be very close, preferably within the same degree. I don't look at other aspects, but perhaps others could comment.

Reading - Spurs 0-1

6 out of 7 games right this evening. Imagine WestBromich giving away a two goal lead!! Their draw with Charlton was only hic-up!
(Although they got it in the end.) Another go tomorrow!
Today was another nice addition to the kitty!

Aargh, Spurs were playing in yellow Just kidding, I don't think it changed anything. Gem, was it a case of antiscial red herrings again? The Moon sextile Mars (L4) - one goal for Spurs - apparently trumped the antiscia testimonies, but how would one have known that beforehand?
Well done, Andrew Onwards and upwards.....

I've changed my mind re the ManC/WestHam game. Since I'm cheering with ManC, I will either go with them - or not buck it!

The Moon's application to Mercury, L1, is significant. The Moon, who is AL10, casts her dexter square through signs of short ascension from the terms of Mercury. The dexter aspect is in favour of the team that controls the pitch. Mercury is lord of both day, hour and the radical ascendant, and he is AL1, since he has dignities in the place of the asc by both domicile, exaltation and terms.

It is true that POF/POS is conjunct Venus, who is AL7, but by nature this allignment is fortunate for the favourite. Venus is dipositor of the Moon (public sentiment) and the 10th. Venus is also in reception by term with Saturn, who is allocated in the 1st, and this should be sufficient for the decision to go in City's favour on their home track.
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The game between Ankaragucu and Besiktas at 1500 CET is rather interesting, because Besiktas are favorites by odds, but the Moon is lady of the Cancer ascendant and applies to the trine of Jupiter, L10. POF in Libra is also making a hard square to the Sun in the 7th (and Libra, the sign POF is his fall), with may prove a disadvantage to the favourites, Besiktas, who are the away team.

The Lyon game yesterday was postponed and will be played at 1500GMT today instead. It is still an excellent bet. Lyon are represented by the Sagittarius des. The Moon applies by trine to Jupiter, L7, and Jupiter applies by trine to Saturn, L10!

Well done Andrew, especially on Reading/Spurs!

notice how Jupiter, L7, is vazarite and in a situation of joy. This is mentioned by Al-biruni as the situation that occurs when a planet comes out of the Sun's Beams. There is a reception by triplicity between Jupiter, L7, and the Moon, AL10.

This was particulary a good observation.

Ficina

was it a case of antiscial red herrings again?

Possibly. There were quite few testimonies and I'll have a look later which ones worked.

Re: tonight's FA Cup matches, I've only had a quick glance but both Man City and Newcastle look all right.

There were quite few testimonies and I'll have a look later which ones worked

I'm thinking it's not so much a question of which ones worked and which ones didn't, but more a case of which ones work better or carry greater weight than others. So I've been trying to compile a possible hierarchy of testimonies. I know it's very difficult to generalise but this is what I've come up with so far.

Bodily emplacement
Bodily aspect
Antiscial emplacement
Antiscial aspect

Any comments?

I'm thinking it's not so much a question of which ones worked and which ones didn't, but more a case of which ones work better or carry greater weight than others

Agreed. That's actually what I meant and

I've been trying to compile a possible hierarchy of testimonies.

that's what I was going to do when I have time.

In the meantime let's start off from what you've given us. I see that you agree with JF that 'Bodily emplacement' comes at the top. Then he differenciates between POF aspects and Moon aspects(both including anticiscia). When you say 'Bodily aspect', do you include all, POF, Moon and anticisia, say Jupiter conjunct anti-something? And by aspect, you are not only talking about conjunction? Conjunction often is the strongest testimony in some cases.

When you say 'Bodily aspect', do you include all, POF, Moon and anticisia, say Jupiter conjunct anti-something?

I've put aspects to antiscia at the bottom of the list. I'm not sure about PoF - we'll need to consider its relative importance in the scheme.

And by aspect, you are not only talking about conjunction? Conjunction often is the strongest testimony in some cases.

I'm talking about all aspects, but this category could be broken down with conjunction being superior to other aspects. We can have hierarchies within hierarchies

Try and make sure that the winning planet is essentially dignified, or else it will hardly perform, let alone achieve any glory.
I mention again (since I learnt a bit by that fact) the antiscia of POF to the descendant did Valencia, the away team, nothing but trouble because POF was in the degree of the Moon's fall.

I still think the task of sorting out the games that can be predicted, and those that should be left alone, is important. I will also try to include testimonies from the lord of the hour and its relationship to the radical ascendant (and descendant) where that seems to give meaning.

The game between Le Mans and Lyon today occurs in the hour of the Moon. Together with other testimonies in favour of Lyon, who are playing away, it is obvious that the Lady of the hour agrees neither with the Gemini ascendant or the powers of Mars in the ascendant. Her agreement is much more with the Jupiter-ruled descendant.

I have to apologise, Ficina. Come to think of it, investigating hierarchical order of strength was not exactly on my mind when I wrote `that was what I was going to do` I was thinking more in terms of examining them in the Reading /Spurs chart.
Usually we have only one or two testimonies at best in a chart, so I haven`t done much of weighing them up in the past.
You`ve given us plenty to think about but I`m not yet able to draw any definite conclusions at this stage.
As Andrew pointed out, it also makes sense to take finer points in the chart into consideration and each chart may have to be judged on its own merit.
Nevertheless it`ll be very useful and helpful if we can draw up such general guidelines.