Last weekend:

It would have helped my cause if I looked at the correct chart. It would seem that if I amend a chart it clicks from BST to UT!!

Postings:

It is noted that people seem to prefer postings on potential upsets. I'll be happy to restrict my comments to potential draws/underdog victories.

Current techniques:

Janis, thanks for offering to send your team colours listing. I would be ok with GB's suggestion that it is put on Skyscript for future reference.
I am not yet in a place to consider colours.
I'm assuming the colours should be regarded as a form of astrological magic/talisman? I am more comfortable with colours than looking at the Ascendant/Descendant rulers. I view it as similar to the technique in horse racing when Jockey colours are included.

I said at the start of the season in August that I would restrict my analysis to looking at the Moon. I'll continue with this until the end of the season. How has it gone- see below!!

Betting:

My main reason for betting is to record a prediction prior to an event and to have a record, if needed, of what I thought. It avoids the temptation of sitting on the fence and then convincing myself afterwards that I would have chosen the correct option after the event!!

I've said before on the forum that my experience of betting is that I basically throw my money away. If I bet, I lose and if I don't bet I win

That said I made a deposit before the Grand National 2013 and have placed regular bets during the football season, with some additional bets on the horses. During the following 14/15 months I've not needed to add any funds. From my track record, I view this as success. That said, I won't make a living out of this.

I do not go for the bets recently described, e.g. 0-1 handicaps, etc. I am just looking for consistency, so go for things like Accumulators, Super 15, Canadians, etc. This is why considering that a favourite will win is relevant to me.

I'll probably join in with the Guineas this weekend and end up needing to make a new deposit afterwards!

New Techniques:

Thank you Janis and Konrad for clarifying Twelfth Parts. From the old texts I've read it seems to be emphasised that it should not be overlooked. I'll have to revisit these books.

I have access to the D-12 Vedic chart. I've also realised there is table in Apotelesmatics (Dykes). How are you both using Twelfth Parts?

Are you casting a D-12 chart and then interpreting it? If so, what are you looking for? Should it be considered that if a planet falls in a Twelfth Part where a malefic is located (e.g. Libra and Mars at the present time) then that planet is weakened??

Like Janis I consider separating aspects. I've not looked at Overcoming but do consider a minor testimony of whole sign hard aspects to the malefics.

As nobody has asked Konrad, I will: What is your opinion/ideas of fractal theory?? (If that is how you describe it)

(Thanks for reading this far)

Champions League, Semifinal, Second Leg, 20:45 CEST, coordinates: 48N 19 21, 010E 52 56

Bayern Munich ? Real, odds 1.80 4.20 4.33

Bayern Munich ? red shirt and shorts, The Bavarians, The Reds ? Mars.
Real Madrid - white shirt and shorts, the Whites ? Moon.

ASC 13SC33, MC 27LE35, POF 19SC 58, Moon 15TA 46, hour Saturn, not radical.

Well, we have both retrograde malefics ruling the time. Both are in mixed reception (exaltation and house ? triplicity). POF is a degree away from Saturn. The Moon is seperating from Jupiter and applying by opposition to POF and Saturn, L4, within the orb of 5 degrees. According to Frawley it is an indication to the underdog. But we have seen favourites winning despite hard aspects to POF.

Mars rules ASC and the day but is afflicted by being aversion to the rising sign. It is mitigated by Venus, his dispositor, curling a whole ? sign trine to the rising degree and being in mixed reception (house ? triplicity, bounds and decanate). The Moon, almuten of the 7th, is applying by opposition to Saturn in the first house.
As regards statistics, Real Madrid has never won in Munich at least in last 20 years ? 6 defeats and a draw.
All considered, I expect Buyern. I am going for Buyern to qualify (a 0:1 handicap).

Championship:

Birmingham -white/blue shirt and white shorts ? Mercury. I believe that Birmingam is ruled by Virgo (Mercury). Wigan blue shirt with two white broad stripes and blue shorts (home) ? Jupiter; black shirt and shorts (Saturn) ? away.

As Andrew indicated, we are having the opportunity to test Sun, L10, partile opposition to POF. Moon rules the hour. The Moon is separating from Mercury and has no aspects until the end of the sign when perfecting a sextile with her exalted dispositor Venus in Pisces. Separation from Mercury (Birmingham) I consider as an affliction. So I expect Wigan to win.

But here we are testing the idea that both teams will score which, in my opinion, is a good bet at a good price. I would be highly disappointed if Birmingham fails to score. As regards statistics they support our pick Birmingham has scored at least one goal and conceded at least 2 in their last 10 home games. They failed to win any of them. Wigan is not very good away with 8 wins, 3 draws and 10 defeats. Wigan has not won head-to-head in Birmingham 3 defeats and 1 draw. As Andrew indicated, the game is a must win for both teams. If they failed to win they are almost doomed to relegation; they then need to win the next game and hope that other underdogs will not collect points. Wigan if wins will secure a place in playoffs. If not, 3 points in next game will do it.

Charlton ? Watford, odds 2.25 3.50, 3.40

Charlton: red shirt and white shorts (Mars), the Robins, the Valiants, Red Army ?Mars.

Watford: yellow/dark maroon shirt and dark maroon shorts ? Sun, the Golden Boys, the Yellow Army ? Sun.

Watford is particularly weak away and, from the viewpoint of the table position, should have no motivation to fight, they have not even theoretical chances to grab a place in playoffs. Charlton is in a different position and is facing a threat of being relegated. If they win, they have secured a place in Championship. If not, they should take 3 points in next game or hope that other rivals will fail.

Astrologically, Sun appears to be stronger than Mars. Sun is in a stake of fortune, in the same sign as the lady of hour Moon. But unfortunately the Moon has been separating and applying to Saturn in the first. However, I am not sure whether the better position of the Sun will help Watford to take points. I think that I still should pick home, considering the motivation and Mars's better reception with Venus, the dispositor of both Mars and Sun.

Can somebody tell me what's going on in Munich. It is 0:3. Well, I in advance should admit that I made a wrong prediction.

In my opinion, the explanation is retrograde malefics ruling the time. I think I must have mentioned it somewhere as a strongly negative testimony but can't recall where and when. Unfortunately, I failed to take into consideration.


In the same fashion, I failed to take into consideration that Moon is applying to Saturn, lord of hour and L 4, the end. Considering that Real is an underdog (in particular their statistics against Bayern away) I should have regarded the application as a strong fortification which in fact is such. I really feel disappointed when I should have been right.

Janis,

Colours don't work (ok, on the odd occasion, maybe). It's the equivalent of asking

'what are we going to have for dinner tonight, darling?'

'white'.

White what exactly? Butter beans, chicken, rice, bread or milky bars? Coconut, maybe?

In my experience, the antiscia of PoF is the single most important testimony in an event chart - particularly in football matches.

Just my humble opinion.

Bayern M?nchen - Real Madrid 0-4
Birmingham - Wigan 0-1
Chartlon - Watford 3-1

Don't worry about the Champion League game, Janis. You put a lot of effort into this evenings matches. I read you report several times and you got two of them right.

Personally, I went for a simple win for Wigan with no other tricks and did well with that. But then when Real Madrid got a free kick in the 88th minute and Ronaldo line up, I put ?10 on Real getting that 4th goal at the odds of 10:1!

It seemed obvious the chart was not Bayern's way this evening.

In my experience, the antiscia of PoF is the single most important testimony in an event chart - particularly in football matches.

Nathan, I would be happy if I could agree with you. If it were true, the folk wisdom would have noticed any regularity in this. OK, we today had 5 games. In all the antisca of PoF was somewhere in Aquarius. What do you make of it?

In UK, you see that both games in Championship ended as predicted (yet Birmingham failed to score), in League One both ended draw. Could you tell me the difference why?

Thanks, Andrew, for encouragement. Unfortunately, we must reckon with blunders. Pleased to read that a luck smiled at you tonight.

"In UK, you see that both games in Championship ended as predicted (yet Birmingham failed to score), in League One both ended draw. Could you tell me the difference why?"

Is it that the method used is not perfect?

I would suggest don't blame the astrology of the situation.

Is it that the method used is not perfect?

I would suggest don't blame the astrology of the situation.

I am not blaming astrology, I am blaming myself for my blunder. We all know that our methods are not perfect but we are doing a lot of job here to make them so. As regards colors, they work, so do the nicknames of teams and city rulers the teams represent.

I know why the games ended as they ended yesterday (including draws in League One regarding which I run short of time to type predictions before the games started) by just using the colors method. But it doesn't count. Counts only that we are demonstrating publicly here on forum.

With the benefit of hindsight, I can explain (without need to distort my previous rules or invent new ones to force work the old ones, without tricks and artificial explanations) 98% (three-way bets) of the games, including all played on Saturday, at 15:00 in UK. I wish I could do it in advance.

Janis wrote:Thanks, Andrew, for encouragement. Unfortunately, we must reckon with blunders. Pleased to read that a luck smiled at you tonight.

Some 'luck', but it may be argued that is was a combination of many things. First, a correction: I did not bet on Real scoring a 4th goal, I backed them winning the 2nd half at the odds of 10:1 in the 88th minute. This would not have been possible if I hadn't been following the game Live and made a reassessment of the match. The thing that really puzzled me is how one of the world's greatest football teams, Real, (with one of the world's greatest managers) got rated as 'underdogs' prior to this match. Then, when one of the world's most talented football players, Ronaldo, got a free-kick just outside the penalty area - we know this is close to a penalty kick and the price was 10-1!! There is probably a 50% chance of Ronaldo scoring in a situation like this, which means that the price was good in terms or risk/reward. The way that the chart and game played out caused me to wager that Real stood with a strong chance of winning both the 1st and 2nd half. Then, when this opportunity occurred I went for it.

I think I put in some hard work this month (as several of us), so I do think that may be added into the equation - and I also think that discipline was a factor. As things stood with 4 minutes left of play, my stake in the B'ham-Wigan game was due for a ?30 profit. Rather than put all of this on Ronaldo and see an evening's progress evaporate in the final minutes (or B'ham could equalize in the last kick of the game), I decided to do 1/3 of this, which was to put ?10 on Real Madrid - which comes close to balancing and hegding the situation in the best possible fashion. This gave me 3 possibilities of a profit and one option of a loss.

The reason I picked the Birmingham - Wigan game in the UK in preference to the other games, was because of the matching and battles of B'ham and Wigan for survival and regelation at the bottom and top of the Championship, and the degree of the Moon's fall on the asc., her exaltation on the desc. The reason I did not go for B'ham scoring, or for the 1-2 or 1-3 scoreline, was that I wanted to inspect a situation of 'alternation'. Interestingly enough, Charton won 3-1 over Watford in the other game in the Championship, but I never set a chart for this game.

The thing that really puzzled me is how one of the world's greatest football teams, Real, (with one of the world's greatest managers) got rated as 'underdogs' prior to this match.

This was a unanimous consent of all bookies. I believe that they are right. Had the game been played last year or at an earlier stage of playoffs when Buyern appeared invincible, we would have had even a better price for Real.

As I said there is a history behind. Real had never won before in Munich in most cases being favorites. And if there is a specific history (a series of similar events), it is always a hard saying when the streak will end.

I remember that at the beginning of the month we were discussing Odd - Molde also with a history (Molde never winning away against Odd).

I really love such games. They are excellent opportunities for testing astrology and learning.

The way that the chart and game played out caused me to wager that Real stood with a strong chance of winning both the 1st and 2nd half. Then, when this opportunity occurred I went for it.

You did well.

or B'ham could equalize in the last kick of the game

No, the chart indicated that Wigan would win. I also provided astrological explanation why. Birmingham appears to be one of the most tested teams about which signification I am deadly sure. As you probably would have noticed, I have made a couple of since I rejoined the forum in the middle of March regarding Birmingham (all were games with no individual starting times) and all were correct. Considering the table position in all games the odds (like 2.70 3.30 2.70) suggested that they may go either way. The games ended the way the charts suggested and as I explained.

or B'ham could equalize in the last kick of the game

I believe we both agreed that Wigan should win. However, Birmingham had not scored, so a risk reducing strategy or maneuver of spread risk of spread risk seemed a good idea.

I am not sure we have reached 98% accuracy, yet. Nor have I got the hang of the colour thing. Whether colour is a factor or not - identity certainly is. I also visitied the Emirates and Stamford Bridge a few months ago and the small psychological tricks they play on the visiting team to make them feel 'uncomfortable' is also interesting.

Janis wrote:I remember that at the beginning of the month we were discussing Odd - Molde also with a history (Molde never winning away against Odd). I really love such games. They are excellent opportunities for testing astrology and learning.

Remember the post I had on the 'Lightening Ghost'? This was like a karmic setting between the two Oslo teams Lyn ('Lightening') and Vaalerenga in 1981 (Jupiter/Saturn conjunction and the wedding of Charles and Diana). 29 years should pass and a Saturn cycle, before Vaalerenga should beat Lyn again!

This evening in the Norwegian tippeliga there are two games being played at 19.00hrs CEST. One in Bergen and another in Sandnes, which is a 20 minute busride south of Stavanger. Here is my pick;

SandnesUlf - Stabaek, 19.00 CEST
Odds: 2,15 3,45 3,25
Asc 18LI33, MC 27CN14, Moon 27TA53, POF 6SC09
Day Mercury, Hour Saturn/Jupiter (Regio) - Guards on the Brigde

SandnesUlf
Light blue shirt and white shorts - Venus
Stabaek
White shirt and shorts - Moon

The planetary hour is on the change, or the Sun is on the cusp of the 8th house according to Regiomontanus houses. Yet, if it is the hour of Saturn, then he is in the same triplicity as Venus, Lady of the Ascendant. And if the Hour is of Jupiter, then the same applies. Venus, L1, is trine the Midheaven, but the MC is also in the degree of the nodes, with the North nodes at 27LI56. I am trying the draw

I believe we both agreed that Wigan should win.

I suppose, yes.

I should look at the chart but according to your description, I think I should favour the away instead of a draw. Reasoning, the Moon has just separated from the her dispositor Venus, L 1 and as per colors also the significator of Sandnes Ulf which I consider as an affliction.

It can happen that Stabaek will wear home colors (black/blue - Saturn). They are nicknamed Blue Boys - Jupiter. Jupiter is angular in the chart and rules the hour or at least starts on a job. I also do not like that Venus is aversion to the rising sign, yet her dispositor Jupiter transfers here light to the rising sign. She is in bounds of Saturn and feral.

As regards statistics, Sandnes ulf has not won this season - 3 defeats and 2 draws. Stabaek has 3 wins and 2 defeats. The only head-to-head home game was won by Sandnes 2:1.