Zenit Petersburg - Leverkusen, 16.30 GMT
Odds: 1.97 3.34 3.39
Asc 16LI55 MC 25CN16 Moon 23GE55 VOC, POF 19SG37
The game is played on the Dy of Jupiter, Hr of Mercury. Mercury is in the same sign as Venus, L.asc, and sits on the cusp of the 7th opposing the asc.

I might change my mind on this, but seeing that the Moon is VOC and cadent in Gemini; Mercury, LHr., sitting on the 7th in his propper terms, and in exact application to his dispositor, Mars; POF's closest aspect being its square to Uranus 20PI27 - I feel like going for the underdogs, Leverkusen.

Getafe - Bayern M?nchen, 18.45 GMT
Odds: 3.18 3.18 2.12
Asc 21LI23 MC 24CN57 Moon 25GE14, POF 2520
The game starts on the Dy of Jupiter, Hr of Mercury/(Moon).

The Moon is VOC, L10; the hour is radical by triplicity; POF is opposite Moon; the Sun sits of the Asc. There is a mixture of testimonies - it could still be a draw... ?

Thanks to UBER for pointing out a miscalculation in this post, which should now be corrected.

The chart not being radical, did that make it neccessary to move ManU to the des?? The favourite does not win from the asc when the chart is not radical???

Now that's an interesting thought.

Maybe it is a sign and ManU win the whole thing!?

Nah, Liverpool will win the whole thing

Remember WestHam getting beaten by Portsmouth, Ficina?

I do indeed! Not sure of the relevance though

Congratulations everyone as we take 2nd position in the Forum Section poll

Yes, well done everybody, it's great to see so much enthusiasm - and hard work!

Remember WestHam getting beaten by Portsmouth, Ficina?

I do indeed! Not sure of the relevance though

What I am suggesting is that we are picking up shaddows of the future. The charts are trying to tell us that ManU (and not Liverpool ) will win the Champions League and Portsmouth will win the FA Cup.

I could be wrong...

Yes you're wrong Andrew!
Man U will win the Champions League, not the UEFA Cup.

Nah, Liverpool will win the whole thing

Well Ficina, I'd say they will beat Chelsea, no doubt. I must say I was so impressed by them the other night. Arsenal were impeccable for the first 20mins but Liverpool played with so much spirit and they were fabulous

Zenit/Leverkusen
Moon VOC so possibility of a draw but chart being radical shifts the balance back to the faves, Zenit. Moon square ant Venus (L1), sextile ant Saturn (L4). These are both minor testimonies but my thinking is that aspects to L1 or L7 carry more weight than aspects to L4 or L10. (That's just a theory at the moment.) I think Zenit will win but it might not be quite so easy for them as it was in the first leg which they won 4-1.

A draw for Sporting/Rangers
No testimonoies either side and Moon void.

Who is the LOH for Zenit?

Man U will win the Champions League, not the UEFA Cup.

Yes, brilliant as they are, they can't win the UEFA Cup

Arsenal were impeccable for the first 20mins but Liverpool played with spirit and they were fabulous

That was a great game to watch wasn't it? I really enjoyed it, especially the 2nd half. To be honest, if the final ends up being ManU/Liverpool, I don't mind who wins. It would be much more interesting if the finalists came from different countries.

Gem wrote:A draw for Sporting/Rangers
No testimonoies either side and Moon void.

Who is the LOH for Zenit?

That chap, Mercury. See Andrew's post for details. Mercury is also hour ruler in Sporting/Rangers chart. In fact the charts are almost the same, so what I said re VOC Moon and radicality also applies here - advantage Sporting (faves). I have a couple of testimonies. Venus (L1) square ant POF and Moon sextile ant Saturn (L4). I think Sporting will win, assuming they are Asc. Colours are difficult. Green/white and blue/white would both fit for Venus I think An opportunity to try Uber's 12th house fans method? I'll check it out later.

Isn't the match at Zenit kicking off at 18:30? (AC 28 virgo 5), and I have AC at 17 Libra 20 for the Sporting chart.

In the Sporting chart, I have POF at 21 Sag 18 so the aspect between Venus is separating.

Ficina wrote: Colours are difficult. Green/white and blue/white would both fit for Venus I think An opportunity to try Uber's 12th house fans method? I'll check it out later.

If use 12th house for fans, then Sporting on DSC.
And I would give victory to DSC team.

Uber
Would you be so kind to explain your 12th house fans method? Sounds intriguing!

Isn't the match at Zenit kicks-off at 18:30?

16.30 GMT which is 20.30 local time. The chart I have agrees with Andrew's data.

In the Sporting chart, I have POF at 21 Sag 18 so the aspect between Venus is separating.

Venus square antiscion POF.

If use 12th house for fans, then Sporting on DSC.
And I would give victory to DSC team.

Thanks, Uber. Why do you think Desc team will win?

Just so everyone knows what we are talking about...

Sporting Lisbon v Glasgow Rangers, 6.45pm GMT which is 7.45pm local time. Asc 17,21 Libra. Sporting are odds-on faves.