Goca wrote:

Goca wrote:If Spain wear their home sport kit darkred they are represent with Sa. Italy then will wear white sport kit and is represent with Moon. Frawley suggest when Moon is ruler to keep it for Moon;s aspects and use its dispositor as ruler for that team, here it is Ju in close conjunction with South node. This is strong testimony that Italy will lose.There are no Moon;s aspect within 5 degrees. There are no big difference in dignities. Because Lord of hour is on the brink we can expect draw but at the end Spain will win.

Spain 4:0 Italy!

It proved, a significator conjunct the South Node is greatly weakened.

You gave the right judgement, Goca, congratulkations also to you!

But I have doubts as to the reason you give: Jupiter is separating from the South Node and thus not 'conjunct' to it any longer.

Here is what Frawley said about that:
"Conjunction with one of the Moon's Node is a factor that can decide a chart on its own! A significator conjunct the South Node is greatly weakened. It makes no difference whether the significator is applying to or separating from the Node. Keep to a maximum separation of about 5 degrees, with the usual rule of "the closer the stronger".

Nixx wrote:A brief analysis suggests 14 correct predictions and 30 incorrect ones , so as a 'team' effort the result was below chance. On the plus side, if there is one, Andrew seems to have a 5 from 7 hit rate, so whatever he is doing may be worth a closer look at.

I suggest people hold their position at present contributing as a team with their individual approaches. If there is any way in which our structure and methodology can be improved, so it is becomes more obvious how we are working - then that is the way to go. We could still end up in a situation where methods could be changed according to contest, climate or background factors.

Some of our reasoning should be examined. For example, when I suggest Jupiter with the South Node is good for Spain - Spain will win, then Goca provides a quote that says the team signified by Jupiter is detrimented by the SN, Jupiter is Italy, hence Italy looses. - Stuff like this rattles me.

Team colours are interesting but I am not sure how it is supposed to moves things around yet and would like to see more. A scorecard at the end of the day could be useful because there has to be consistancy. To improve our judgement we have to improve our understanding of the structure. It was delightful so see so many participating members as the tournament progressed.

Goca wrote:Here is what Frawley said about that:
"Conjunction with one of the Moon's Node is a factor that can decide a chart on its own! A significator conjunct the South Node is greatly weakened. It makes no difference whether the significator is applying to or separating from the Node. Keep to a maximum separation of about 5 degrees, with the usual rule of "the closer the stronger".

Thanks for the quotation, Goca!
Obviously you quote Sports Astrology, p. 16, where Frawley discusses sport horaries. I dont want to split hairs, but I think it is important and fascinating, to understand the texts of the authors correctly. Now, you clipped the beginning of the second sentence (and in this context it makes an important difference in my opinion):
"In this context, it makes no difference whether the planet is [...]"

In the context of sport events he says, p. 89:
"North Node good; South Node bad. [...] But Significators falling on the Nodes will be helped or harmed. [...] Conjunctions only, within a couple of degrees at most."

This is obviously a difference but I'll keep the problem in mind.

Johannes