Re: Alexei Navalny 25 by AquaStelLea Stefan wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:33 am Navalny sacrificed himself with the sense of his Courage (Mars), showing the world an immense courage to stand up against a dark regime for all of us to see, He could have stayed in Germany in exile. But choose another destiny fully aware of the dangers it implied. Thank you. That's certainly one point of view and possible interpretation of this natal aspect. There can be also different ways to interpret his chart, for example that he was so strongly motivated by his desire for power, to the point of becoming a martyr of his own ideas. Alexei Navalny has this very difficult tight planetary picture in his natal chart: Pluto = Sun/Uranus According to Ebertin's COSI this reads as "A radical reformer, the desire to rearrange things. - Tragic experiences, great physical suffering, sudden physical restriction (imprisonment)". At the time of his death, solar arc Pluto was at 24:30 Scorpio, exactly opposite the transit Moon of the death chart (24+ deg Taurus). The tr Moon actually triggered this directed planetary picture. If we attempt a slight "chart rectification" (hoping it won't turn into a "wrecktification") and use 1:24 PM as the birth time, instead of 1:30 PM, we will find the following natal planetary picture in addition: Mc = Sun/Pluto = Node/Mars. Ebertin describes the Sun/Pluto midpoint as "The striving for power, the craving for rulership, the power of attainment". Under "Sociological Correspondences" he lists "Pioneers, fighters, persons accustomed to rule others, Martyrs of their own ideas. Under the title "Probable manifestations" he writes: + Sudden advancement in life, the ability the establish and consolidate one's own position as a leader, the realization of new ideas. - Physical suffering, martyrdom, Danger of life, separation by Providence (force majeure). At the time of his death SA Mars and Transit Neptune both formed exact square aspects with the natal Mc, thus turning him into both a Hero and the Martyr. (SA) Mars = (natal) Mc = Sun/Pluto "The desire to perform record achievements, over-exertion or over taxing one' s powers, ruthlessness - The tendency to work to the point of physical breakdown." (transit) Neptune = (natal) Mc = Sun/Pluto "The undermining of health or of vocational position, Martyrdom". Natal Mc = Mars/Node "The integration of one's own individuality into the community" (COSI) Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:52 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 26 by Greg Young Ouranos wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:53 pm Alexei Navalny_Hyleg.png The Sun is Hyleg in his chart reaching natal Saturn in the last degree of Cancer. Adding what you (Deb and Jason) already mentioned about the other positions in his chart. And the Saturn station Greg is right on the spot. Ouranos Well, I'd just say the astrology is on the spot, Ouranos. I think I will put the chart up because now that Navalny's Wife has spoken out its Venus and the Moon that are highlighted in the station chart (Saturn). So for today (19 Feb). Venus Quincunx Lilith +0°00’S Vertex Trine Moon +0°00’S I'm not quite sure what interpretation to make but it points to a female at the heart of things on this day. Vertex is a fated often 'turning point' whilst venus/lilith = raw emotions. Sun transit Saturn Pisces (religious/martyr?) throws light on the death itself as it conjuncts on this very day. Also going back to the actual event itself Neptune (poisons) as mentioned was semi-square ASC (0'0' exactly) but also the SUN (male person). So at least in my eyes anyway, it is highly accurate - to the second and I think we all agree for anyone a sad event. Attachments Saturn station -Navalny.png Viewed 1358 times 134.46 KiB Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:06 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 27 by AquaStelLea Greg Young wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:06 pm Please pardon my ignorance. Why does this Saturn station chart look like it was cast for London, or somewhere near London UK, and how does it relate to Navalny? Thanks in advance. Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:29 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 28 by Greg Young Good question, Stella. It's what's known as a ''World Chart'' ie. set for Greenwich pertaining to World affairs although rightly its v. similar for the UK chart set for London. I toyed with posting the one set for Russia which theoretically at least is from a Russian angle. Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:42 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 29 by AquaStelLea Greg Young wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:42 pm Good question, Stella. It's what's known as a ''World Chart'' ie. set for Greenwich pertaining to World affairs although rightly its v. similar for the UK chart set for London. I toyed with posting the one set for Russia which theoretically at least is from a Russian angle. Thank you for the prompt and clear response, Greg Young. Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:46 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 30 by Greg Young Mercury (nervous system) with Poseidon (poison/drugs) on the Aries Point at time of purported death. So that's Mer/Po square in the chart with aries pt in 10th square the midpoint. Mercury on 8th cusp. (Placidus). Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:00 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 31 by AquaStelLea Greg Young wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:00 pm Mercury (nervous system) with Poseidon (poison/drugs) on the Aries Point at time of purported death. So that's Mer/Po square in the chart with aries pt in 10th square the midpoint. Mercury on 8th cusp. (Placidus). As far as I know, although NPT Poseidon is "a higher octave of Neptune". it has nothing to do with poison. Although in Navalny's Solar arc directed Chart Poseidon and Uranus are on the Aries Axis (on the 22:30 deg chart = 16th harmonic), in the death chart neither transit Mercury nor transit Poseidon are there. Uranus/Poseidon stands for "Propaganda, Television, Moving pictures, signs of life, enlightenment, bringing into motion through ideas. truth, the light bearer, etc..." In the 32nd harmonic, his solar arc Neptune/Apollon are also on the Aries axis, which stand for "Embezzlement, Large scale corruption, Massive deception, Pervasive dissolution, Chemistry, Science of the future, Occult science, Masses of air, gas or water". Aries - Neptune/Apollon - Corruption, The general deception about the future, The general uncertainty about the near future..." Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:37 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 32 by Greg Young Well Poseidon is at a square and is working stressfully. More than that there is a t-square of Mercury 17 aq - Poseidon 18 sc - Uranus 19 tau so quite a volatile combination. Open to interpretation of course but Mercury is on 8th cusp and is the apex of the t-sq. Quote Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:23 pm
Re: Alexei Navalny 33 by AquaStelLea Wikipedia now lists Navalny's name as a notable example of a Martyr in Politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_(politics) Quote Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:34 am
Re: Alexei Navalny 34 by linchi Alexei Navalny 4 June 1976 at 13:30 (= 1:30 PM )Solnechnogorsk, Russian Federation, 56n1053, 37e0023 https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Navalny,_Alexei On 16 February 2024, the Federal Penitentiary Service announced that Navalny had died at the prison in Yamalo-Nenets in Western Siberia after taking a walk and feeling unwell that morning. He reportedly died at 2:17 p.m. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny#Death Poison: NE/AD (Lexicon for Planetary Pictures p.152) Transit (Harmonic 16) t NE/AD = r SU Solar Return (Harmonic 16) solar MA/SA = solar NE/AD Progression of Lunar Return (Harmonic 256) Lunar Return as Radix p SU = r NE/AD Note : the calculations are sidereal with Krishnamurti Ayanamsa https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:22 am
Re: Alexei Navalny 35 by Greg Young AquaStelLea wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:34 am Wikipedia now lists Navalny's name as a notable example of a Martyr in Politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_(politics) Yes, Sun conj Sat in Pisces and first degree of Pisces. Martyr is used in the headlines about him as well. That Saturn at the nadir most of all is indicative of the mass deaths in Gaza I think as the Saturn station was on Nov 4th in the same week Israel forces began their revenge attack so most of all it is representative of all the sad souls who have lost their lives these past months. Saturn on the Nadir is probably the worst placement it can possibly be in and with the Sun/Mars on the ASC the worst station I have seen. Maybe I will look at the Somme or Passchendaele to find one as negative. The next Saturn station cannot possibly be as bad so we live in hope! btw.........it keeps carrying on - a few hrs ago Russian pilot who defected to Ukraine 'found dead in underground car park in Spain' https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslond ... r-BB1izerr Quote Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:36 am
Re: Alexei Navalny 36 by AquaStelLea linchi wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:22 am Poison: NE/AD (Lexicon for Planetary Pictures p.152) Thank you for your valuable comments on this issue, linchi. I would like to add that the Neptune/Admetos combination does not only indicate "deadly poison", but also very cold air, ice, freezing. Sun = Neptune/Ademtos - "The condition of the body changes, The man who enters different living conditions. Days when the weather changes. The change into a different aggregate condition. To freeze or to thaw" [Rules for Planetary Pictures p. 314] The native Alexei Navalny has quite a few natal combinations indicating his "lack of stamina" and physical weakness (Sun opposite Neptune is just one of them). On mainstream media it was widely reported that he had suffered from the conditions in his arctic prison. Just a few of the titles, for example: "Navalny tells Russian court of ‘freezing’ conditions inside his Arctic prison"(CNN) "Navalny's Health Was Imperiled by Prison Conditions" (The New York Times) "From Frigid Cells to Mystery Injections, Prison Imperiled Navalny’s Health" (The New York Times) "Russia's Navalny describes harsh reality at 'Polar Wolf' Arctic prison" (Reuters) Quote Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:55 pm