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Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:44 pm
by Jakob
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

George Berkeley

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:49 pm
by james_m
thanks georgius..
Georgius wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 7:51 pm
james_m wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:21 pmyour post reminds me of something of an article i read a number of years ago.. https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/
An essay worth reading.

In German there are different words for thingness (Realität— reality as world of things; from Latin res) and something which maybe expressed as activity in English (Wirklichkeit— that what has impact). In my opinion truth is neither Realität nor Wirklichkeit because also lies have impact and Realität are just things.
jakob

what you have quoted is a very well known zen koan - the author is unknown... cheers..
Jakob wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:44 pm If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

George Berkeley

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:07 pm
by Jakob
The Universtíty of California, Berkeley is named in honor of the philosopher George Berkeley, james.

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:09 pm
by james_m
jakob

he is a very interesting cat indeed!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:18 pm
by Jakob
I don't trust you, james.
Sorry,

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:19 pm
by james_m
well, that is one way to shut down a conversation, lol...

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:42 pm
by Jakob
Three dialogues between Hylas and Philonous

If someone likes to read Berkeley

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 5:15 pm
by Jakob
The last few months we had a lot of demonstrations all over Germany, they called "Demonstrations against the right". Members of the government took part, but not the opposition. One friday, around five weeks ago, I made a walk into the city center to trink a cup of coffee. At a central place I run into this demonstration. I trunk my cup of coffee and listened what they said. In the evening news it what said, that 1500 people took part. The place were the demonstration happened, only had place for around 300 - 400 people, but unly 70% of the place had people. A few days later I asked my neighbour. She also said 300-400 fit at this place.

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:36 pm
by Jakob
Yesterday, our media reported that 4 scourges have been freed from Gaza.
What is not reported is that 11 scourges were supposed to be freed
and only 4 survived.
What does one horoscope look like, what does the other look like?

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:02 pm
by Georgius
Jakob wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:36 pmscourges
I think you mean “hostages”, didn’t you?

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:44 pm
by Jakob
An hour ago I experienced an intense situation on the bus in Frankfurt with AC 0 degrees libra. I could tell from the reactions of other passengers that their perception of what was happening was very similar to mine. Here me and the other passengers were directly involved. When news is in the media, other people tell us what happened. In addition, most of the time they were not even involved themselves. Since all media receive their information from the same sources and therefore report structurally the same, the majority believe these descriptions. What is the truth? What does it man for astrology?

Re: What about the truth?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:46 pm
by Jakob
It is also interesting when a sporting event in front of millions of spectators creates an unclear situation
that is viewed differently by spectators and referees. Can astrology clarify this objectively?