25 by Tara I have a client with a stellium in Taurus conjunct Algol. She is afflicted with pervasive and acute anxiety. A fearsome Star like Algol could indeed generate anxiety. Mind you, she also has Moon square Pluto ... Tara Quote Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:49 pm
26 by Yikkes! I go with the asertion that Algol is VERY CLOSE to the animal state. Perhaps it rules Shamen. Perhaps it is MOTHER EARTH. Yikkes! Quote Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:44 pm
Algol - Contempory 27 by Julie K Tara wrote:I have a client with a stellium in Taurus conjunct Algol. She is afflicted with pervasive and acute anxiety. A fearsome Star like Algol could indeed generate anxiety. Mind you, she also has Moon square Pluto ... Tara Tara, A person known to me very well has a 12th House Algol - same degree as his N Mercury and Moon. Chiron is 28 Taurus, Sun 2 Gemini all in 12th. The family line has proven to show some mental illness back in the past. Yes 'he lost his head' due to mental illness and alcohol abuse - and has no idea how to live life - relationships are non-existant, as was family life. I doubt Algol would prove so powerful in all charts with planetary and Luminary contacts. Julie K Quote Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:24 am
Fixed stars 28 by Bill Martin Sideral Astrology uses constellations and fixed stars. Western Astrology,or Tropical Astrology uses the seasons. Its funny that not many student astrologers realize this and lots of professionals just like to ignore the fact. Quote Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:20 am
Re: Fixed stars 29 by epurdue Bill Martin wrote:Sideral Astrology uses constellations and fixed stars. Western Astrology,or Tropical Astrology uses the seasons. Its funny that not many student astrologers realize this and lots of professionals just like to ignore the fact. Traditional astrology still uses fixed stars, regardless of the seasonal reckoning of the signs. Quote Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:32 pm
Fixed Stars 30 by Julie K The Fixed Stars can be very helpful in Horary as well. They take 72 years to move one degree. Julie K Quote Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:51 pm
31 by Arihant Dear Sirs, ........hold your breath.. i have my natal Mars at 25 Degree 15' of Taurus...recently read about this Algol effect ,but have always felt problems with my Mars...had this stupid habit of invariably kicking gift horse on his mouth , whenever he tried to give me a free ride, ( thought ,square to Asc was responsible..) , ....but after Marriage ! Saw & experienced this pattern of violence ,really manifesting inside me & crystallizing things..whenever my wife criticises, me far too contemptly for my comfort ( i also carry Uranus,pluto conjunctions in my house 7) ...so brooding a anger erupts Volcanically..tell you truth , have broken few Mobiles , a TV remote , Glasses , Trolley...in this state...though i have never taken an alcoholic drinks (except cough-syrups) all my life..its so shameful..very difficult to control Arihant Quote Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:14 am
32 by Mark Sideral Astrology uses constellations and fixed stars. Western Astrology,or Tropical Astrology uses the seasons. Its funny that not many student astrologers realize this and lots of professionals just like to ignore the fact. I think you have got the wrong end of the stick Bill as we say here in Britain. You are confusing the tropical signs with tropical astrology's historic use of uneven sized constellations. Tropical western astrology has always been 'sidereal' in the sense of using the fixed stars and constellations. You may be surprised to learn that nearly all the well known tropical astrologers in history such as Ptolemy, Bonatti, Lilly, Morin etc worked with fixed stars and constellations. Most contemporary traditional astrologers also work with fixed stars. There are even some modern schools of tropical astrology that have maintained this approach such as Uranian astrology. Hence one of the foremost authorities on the use of fixed stars today is Diana Rosenberg. She is a tropical Uranian astrologer. Followers, of Ebertin and Cosmobiology also use fixed stars. I think this has influenced Noel Tyl so I believe he is known to teach his students about working with fixed stars too. Clearly, the use of fixed stars in tropical astrology is not confined to those working traditionally. Ironically, systems of so called 'Sidereal Astrology' such as Jytosh or the western Fagan-Bradley Zodiac don't actually use the constellations at all. They squeeze the traditionally uneven shaped constellations into 12 even shaped 'signs'. One effect of dividing up the uneven shaped constellations into standardised 'signs' is that there is no agreement amongst siderealists where signs begin or end. Thus there are numerous schools of astrology in India proposing a slightly different sidereal zodiac. In western tropical astrology constellations and fixed stars are used in addition to the tropical signs. However, the constellations are of unequal size. The constellation of Virgo for example is three times as large as the constellation of Capricorn. Western tripicalists also make use of other constellations apart from the zodiacal ones. In fairness, the position with Jytosh is more complex than the western Fagan-Bradley Zodiac since it also uses the 27 lunar mansions or Nakshatras which are divided up evenly according to various fixed stars. Originally though they are thought to have been of unequal sizes in the same way the constellations used in western tropical astrology are today. Quote Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:35 pm
Fixed Stars 33 by Julie K arihant, From what I understand about Fixed Stars they have to be right on gthe exact degree to affect a Luminary or Planet. With your Natal Mars @ 25/15 Taurus and Algol is 26 Taurus + your Mars would not be implicated. You understand your behavior and own it. Maybe anger management courses could help you? To add: Mars energy in Taurus is held back, bottled up. The Myth is that Mars was corked up in a bottle for 9 months, other myths say 14 months. When the cork is finally popped out he comes in a blazing rage, ready to take anything and anyone on. Maybe this is helpful. Julie K Last edited by Julie K on Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:07 pm, edited 1 time in total. Quote Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:56 pm
34 by Tom Please understand that what follows is not intended to be a delineation of any chart or a description of any person. These are guidelines I thought might be helpful. Most astrologers use between one and two degrees of orb for a fixed star and conjunctions only. Rising culminating and setting stars are probably the most important, planets conjunct stars are next and in that case a planet having the same nature as a star would be more influential than a planet of a dissimilar nature. For example the star under discussion is Caput Algol and is said to have a Mars-Jupiter nature. Therefore if Mars or Jupiter is conjunct Algol it is more likely to have a major influence in the chart. The stars, for the most part, have a pretty fearsome reputation and Algol has the fiercest of all. But these reputations are usually based on a single instance in a single chart where something dreadful happened and no consideration is given to anything else. The classic example is John F. Kennedy. He has Jupiter on Algol and he was shot in the head and killed at the age of 46. While it is tempting to look at Algol in JFK?s chart somewhat smugly and say, ?I told you so,? it would be dishonest to do so. Kennedy?s chart has Venus ruling the ASC and 8th cusp (Placidus) posited in the 8th square the Moon who rules the MC. She is also combust, but barely so and leaving combustion. Mars in Taurus is on the 8th cusp conjunct the dispositor of Kennedy?s Sun. The Sun is conjunct the MC by antiscion. There is enough spooky stuff here to fill a good horror novel and yet it took an extraordinary convergence of events to put Kennedy and his assassin in Dealy Plaza on Nov 22, 1963. There was a lot more going on than Jupiter on Algol. The second point is philosophical and perhaps theological. Algol is said to be an evil star. However, we are taught that evil is the absence of good. In and of itself it does not exist; it has no essence. If we accept this, then Algol (or Saturn or Mars) cannot be evil and must be good. What kind of good? Like most things in life Algol presents us with a choice. Caput Algol is the head of the Medusa. Medusa, who, in some versions of the myth was a beautiful woman that had the slight drawback of having snakes instead of hair. Glance upon her and the individual turns to stone. When one is turned to stone, one has no soul. Algol represents the desire nature. A prominent Algol confronts the native with his or her desires. The Medusa was slain with the sword of Perseus who cleverly used a mirror (wisdom) to enable him to kill the Medusa without actually looking at her. Perseus took action. Mars on Algol then is the challenge to pick up the sword and overcome, where necessary, one?s less tan admirable desires. Otherwise the desires will destroy the soul. Think of a politician who desires wealth, power, prestige or whatever and schemes using any available means available, fair or foul, to obtain a high position for his own benefit only. That person has no soul. He is effectively turned to stone by his desires. However another person in a similar position uses wisdom and the sword for greater good has a soul and slays the Medusa. This is the meaning of Algol in a chart. We are confronted by our desires and our decision is to accept the challenge, or ignore it and suffer the consequences, which may range from regretting what might have been to an untimely death (and no I?m not indicting JFK). There is a whole chart to be considered, not just a single placement. Tom Quote Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:34 am
35 by Arihant Thank you, Julie and Thank you ,Respected Tom , I am so glad to hear these kind words from you.Julie Already my thanks were overdue , for Toltec Wisdoms four Agreements. which you were so gracious to tell us in the other thread: Be Impeccable with Yor Word. Dont Take Anything Personally. Dont Make Assumptions. Always do your best. however please ..., what is meant by "Unos Salos Vistas" Perhaps , i can add two more, very important for me,(as my malice run deep inside my psyche) ...to cultivate more love , more understanding for my dear wife! and that:i truly agree , that to every one household , a girl should born that people should realize they need be sensitive to girls that a gentleman is one who is sensitive to any of the total girls in the world , whoever girl God gives him to deal as a father , brother , son,husband or friend .. he should never ever shout at her or BREAK her spirits !Fine, Coming to this , that Algol is presently at 26 deg 12' of Taurus , just analyze that at the start of 1900 , it was at 24 Tau 46' , so due to precession of motion , at summer 1968 , it wasn't too far from conjunctional orb of less than 1 degrees There is no point in blaming Planets for our lack of self control - or characteristic weaknesses... i should know & behave better, though famous taurean anger was not frequent , but now at 40, i can certainly give more care & caution. Anyways , my heart was warmed by your affectionate concern! (elderly also) Mr Tom,please accept my regards first! Though your post was meant to caution folks not to imagine / visualize Algol doing Caput in your lives far too much, but i am sure , you are aware of my standing in front of such people. After reading 2-3 times , i am now fully understanding the importance of this post & i feel grateful tor you, for writing this . "Algol represents the desire nature. A prominent Algol confronts the native with his or her desires" HOW TRUE "This is the meaning of Algol in a chart. We are confronted by our desires and our decision is to accept the challenge" way to work it out.. Sir , i have this confusion , i request you to guide a bit, about this as during 1900 Algol from 24Tau46 came to 26 tau10 at 2000 (due to precession of motion) Now in some books , Authors have given certain characteristic with degrees , like since that famous person had Murcury at this degree of taurus & this fixed star is also there , & so this degree favour "inventiona ' like Marconi, Now , as on today, this fixed star , since the publication of the book ,has shifted to next degree , so wouldn't that books description about that degree is no longer valid now? Can we fit it for next degree, & what about descriptions , given for other degrees, which do not have any named star nearby? I hope many would like to have a bit more clarity regarding all this.. regards! Arihant Quote Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:18 pm
Agol 36 by Julie K Arihant, I do my best to keep to the Toltec Wisdoms, but as a human being I do fall short. Unos Salos Vistas .....it's Latin and means: I hope you good health continues. Not an exact translation but what we can say in one language just isnt the same as in others. Julie K Quote Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:11 pm