Ficina wrote:none for Stoke

antiPOF conj VENUS was for Stoke.

Practically I used without laborious analysis both POF and POS.

I have Asc 20,12 Libra, MC 27,12 Cancer, POF/POS 12,54 Scorpio.

Obviously, there are several Stoke's. This was yet an unhappy incidence where the computor sent me astray and suggested 51N15 1W05, while Stoke-on-Trent correctly is 53N00 2W11. It takes time to get to the bottom of things like this. Would we be better served by providing details with the initial posting? I think we are getting there.

But look at CHELSEA-FENERBAHCHE!
08-04-2008
18:45 gmt
Chart is not absolutely radical. SUN below horizon, SATURN rules air triplicity only by day.

This is where I like to prove radicality by exaltation. Saturn is exalted in the Libra ascendant. The exaltation gathers more essential dignities than the triplicity and Lilly says that the exaltation has greater fortitude than sign rulership in matters of competition & war.

Hey guys, we have a separate thread for Champions League! Please would you post over there, otherwise it gets confusing. Thanks.

antiPOF conj VENUS was for Stoke.

I don't reverse POF for night charts, Uber, so I didn't have this testimony. Different strokes for different folks

Obviously, there are several Stoke's....Would we be better served by providing details with the initial posting?

It would certainly help in cases such as this. If you remember, we discovered a similar problem with Newcastle.

Yes, it will be our Waterloo if we can't the lat. and long. right! No point in sending the armies out on the wrong ground. It will be like "Hey, where is everyone??" (...Isn't this Wembley??)



Did you reverse POF in the nocturnal chart, UBER?

Ficina wrote: Who do you mean when you say "them"? Andrew's always said that it moves the result away from the favourites, not the Asc

I mean the AC team. The way I see is that when the chart is not radical, it moves the result away from the AC team as I don't always assign AC to faves.

Andrew wrote:The exaltation gathers more essential dignities than the triplicity and Lilly says that the exaltation has greater fortitude than sign rulership in matters of competition & war.

Interesting Where does he say this?

Gem wrote: Lilly says that the exaltation has greater fortitude than sign rulership in matters of competition & war.
Interesting Where does he say this?

By the way Lilly took it from Bonatti.

The way I see is that when the chart is not radical, it moves the result away from the AC team as I don't always assign AC to faves.

Ah, I see what you mean So if there was a situation where we gave the home team the Asc (which we often do of course) but they were the underdogs, then if the chart wasn't radical you would say that moves the result away from the underdogs, whereas Andrew would say it moves the result away from the faves. So that sort of leads to the same conclusion, or does it?

Ficina wrote: So if there was a situation where we gave the home team the Asc (which we often do of course) but they were the underdogs, then if the chart wasn't radical you would say that moves the result away from the underdogs

Exactly

So that sort of leads to the same conclusion, or does it? Confused

Er.... not sure

Let's wait until an example turns up, Gem, then we can test it out In the meantime....

West Ham v Portsmouth, 7.45pm BST, Asc 20,10 Libra

Since I always look at all the Prem games, I thought it would be interesting to compare this one to the Chelsea game because the charts are exactly the same.

Moon VOC
Moon opp POF
Venus (L1) sextile ant POF
Moon trine ant Venus

West Ham are marginal faves (unlike Chelsea). Moon VOC indicates possibility of a draw. Moon opp POF is a negative for the faves but the minor Venus testimonies balance it up. I've gone for a 1-1 draw.

Yes it's a draw or W Ham.
Moon opp Fortuna favours Portsmouth but the chart is radical(good for W Ham) and the other two testimonies also favour W Ham:

Venus (L1) sextile ant POF
Moon trine ant Venus