Southside of Chicago has a monument to 2 December 1942 -- Henry Moore, on what was once U Chicago's Stagg Field underneath which was the first observed atomic split and why the football is called the bomb.

Particle collisions, CERN have started their tests. According to the recent press release this was achieved at 14.22 CST on 23 November, Meyrin, 46N14, 6E04.

Asc 28PI26 MC 29SG17 Sun 1SC24 Moon 16AQ47 POF 13GE50

Pluto is culminating in this chart with the Midheaven lined up with the Winter solstice.
Notice how Saturn and Uranus lie along the horizon.

>Particle collisions, CERN have started their tests.

Hi andrew... most interesting! Notice how the particle collision chart you gave has the Moon conjunct Jupiter translating the light of the opposition between Jupiter and Mars. At the time of the original startup last year Mars was square Jupiter with the Moon conjunct Jupiter! If you recall earlier on I also cited a potential CERN foundation chart with an opposition between Jupiter and Mars!
regards
mike c

Yes, it is interesting.
Jupiter/Mars - smacks a bit of 'Thunderbirds are Go', doesn't it?

Did you check out the official website?
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Sci ... ce-en.html

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At 21.28 CST the LHC becomes the moves powerful accelerator in the world. Full story: The New Scientist
The chart is interesting. Mars, ruler of the Aries Midheaven, is in the first house. Neptune is sextile the MC. The Midheaven is in the degrees of the Nodes. Saturn, almuten of the 4th house, is still in square with Pluto. In fact, Saturn is in semi-square with Mars, and Mars is in a sequiquadrate with Pluto...

Hi in relation to Jupiter/Mars and the fate of the LHC, its interesting that as Mars approached its December station the LHC was shut down, officially a "technical shutdown" until February this year (shutdown was on the Dec 16th).
mike c

Hi in relation to Jupiter/Mars and the fate of the LHC, its interesting that as Mars approached its December station the LHC was shut down, officially a "technical shutdown" until February this year (shutdown was on the Dec 16th).
mike c

Hi again! I'm aware that the reason that it was shut down was so the scientists could all "party on down " for christmas I guess. Suitable that scientists being ruled by Saturn should have a good time for Saturnalia I suppose!
mike c

Just check the chart for the lunar eclipse of 31 Dec 2009 that puts retrograde Mars exactly on the ascendant when calculated for Meryin.
The Astro*Cartography for the recent eclipses is presented at Skyscript here: http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5003

Andrew Bevan wrote: The Midheaven is in the degrees of the Nodes.

Unfortunately, I can't contribute anything intelligent to this thread. But I wonder if you could elaborate on this? I'm currently looking into the degree of the nodes and have made a thread in the horary section.

Actually, the MC is square the nodes, not just "in the degree of". Sorry, I'm not trying to pedantic. I have been trying to work out how much emphasis to put on "the degree of the nodes" when the signs concerned do not behold each other. Thanks.

PallasAthene wrote:Actually, the MC is square the nodes, not just "in the degree of". Sorry, I'm not trying to pedantic. I have been trying to work out how much emphasis to put on "the degree of the nodes" when the signs concerned do not behold each other. Thanks.

You are refering to a comment on the chart of 29.11.2009 posted on 2 Dec on page 2 of this thread. It is commom to say that a planet (or angle) is in the degrees of the nodes irrelevant of aspect and sign. However, any remark regarding a planet being in the exaltation degree of Jupiter would refer to a planet being in those degrees by conjunction in specific.

You are of course right that the Nodes are square the MC, which makes your remark interesting, but one interpretation of the nodes it that they show an aspect of 'fatality'. If the North Nodes do 'Head' and mark the beginning of the Draconic zodiac, then any planet 'in the degree of the nodes', irrelevant of sign, would be on the cusp of one Draconic sign to the next. Planets in the degrees of the nodes, irrelevant of sign, are supposed to be subject to an issue of fatality.

I hope that explains the terminology.

Thanks. I understand the terminology, it's the interpretative value that I am considering. 30 degrees in a sign, 7 planets + antiscia, 12 cusps + antiscia.. so already a 38 in 30 chance of being "in the degree of the nodes". + parts + fixed stars...

In the Cern chart the square holds significance. But in a sign unbeholden? And by "Fatality", I guess you mean fated, rather than death? So a 38 in 30 chance of identifying a "fated" connection?

Sorry, I'm derailing the thread. Fell free to PM if you prefer.

I perceive the use of the nodes in a chart like this to be a 'tightening of screws'. The nodes do, as you say, aspect the MC by a hard square. The problem you are questioning seems to be regarding chart delination - how to know what to emphasis and tie it all together. "Keep it simple!"

Planets, as significators, tell a more punctual story when tied up with the nodes. But don't try to cram everything in. I agree with you that it is important not to clutter too many things up. In this chart I just attempted to draw attention to the involvements of the midheaven/meridian.