ciuboda wrote:Newcastle 9 dec 1892
Tottenham 5 sep 1882

We are in agreement!!!!

Hotspur became Tottenham Hotspur two years later in 1884!!

Thanks Dan
The Spurs date is when they were still known as 'the Hotspur Football Club' according to Wikipedia. I'll look around a bit more to find out the date when they became Tottenham Hotspur.

Hotspur became Tottenham Hotspur two years later in 1884!

Is that when they moved to White Hart Lane? Have you got the date, John?

So guys, the first results are in: how did you do?

Fancy that; Sunderland holding Arsenal to a draw! A M'brough beating Wigan. Didn't get those 2 right I went for a win for the home teams.


Let's see how Blackburn play MU.....

I went for a 1-1 draw for both of those matches. I would have predicted a Sunderland win if I hadn't seen the earlier comments here about how unlikely that was. It seemed like a draw would be a good result for Sunderland, (the asc-team). At least I'll get 3 points for that one.

I've been away a few days but picked up this from the discussion between ficinia and SusieN:

SusieN wrote:
Sunderland vs Arsenal - LOH Jupiter, LAsc Saturn - not radical

Ficinia wrote:
Jupiter and Saturn are in same triplicity (earth) in the chart so, according to Bonatti, chart is radical.

Jupiter and Saturn in the same triplicity - this is the combination I have been saying should be monitored for draws! The game ended 1-1 !!

Well done, Deb!

Andrew, all three games were played at the same time. We ended up with one draw, one home win and one away win

Well done Deb

Thank goodness, I at least got the WBA - Fulham game right. The M'brough win is still a BIG riddle to me, though!

Andrew, I'm sorry that I forgot about your advice re Jupiter and Saturn; I must say I got fairly muddled at the end with my predictions and the question of radicality

I have problems following the discussion. If we are talking about radicality is it possible to provide details of both lord of hour, ascendant and lord of ascendant. Coming in after 9 hours in the car I do not have the time and energy to calculate all the charts. Ascendant, lord of asc and lord of hour is a minimum of information to judge whether the chart is radical or not. Al least then I know what we are talking about. Aspects between these planets, points or to the Moon may prove the chart fit to be judged, but I not fussy as long as some one will help me out of the fog.

Ficinia wrote:Andrew, all three games were played at the same time. We ended up with one draw, one home win and one away win :-S

Which other games were played at the same time, Ficina? Once again I am lost..
I do think that games can end either as a home win, draw or away win according to the contest in question.

I at least got the WBA - Fulham game right

I went 2-0 for WBA, so right result, but wrong on the score. Do you know the score for the Blackburn v Manschester United game - I went 1-2 for that one, which was less of a defeat for Blackburn than my husband predicted. He's away this weekend, so I don't know how to get the scores

The M'brough win is still a BIG riddle to me, though!

Although I chickened out and went for a draw, I'd originally gone for a 1-0 win to Boro based on what I said earlier, Venus (L4) conj MC. It was closer to the angle in this game chart than the other two.

West Brom/Fulham and Wigan/Boro were the other two games, Andrew. All three had virtually identical charts.

I've just realised that the Blackburn game hasn't finished yet. No wonder I've wasted half an hour trying to find the result on the web !

Hi Deb

The Man U just started Score at present 0-0.

For scores look here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football

I went for a draw for this one, seeing that I was over-enthusiastic with my scoring in the first round!