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So I would look at the chart for 18.00 to give an indication as the count begins - this result is actually in the boxes - then the 20.00 for the WA closing of polling booths as counting continues when the fuller result is ?n the boxes'. Both will yield results. Both parties will loose or gain seats and with the Green Party gaining on preferences I think we may be in for a late night.
Hello Julie,

Thanks for clarifying your position. Ok fair enough. I can see the reasoning there although I would tend to just use the 20:00 chart for Canberra myself to keep it simple. However, its time I got back to delineation of my preferred chart(s) and left others to follow their own inclinations.

As this election looks like going down to the wire Western Australian results will be crucial like everywhere. Both parties have been trying to woo votes there this week. For example, Julia Gillard was in Perth again today for her third visit of the campaign. The latest poll predicts a Labour 4 seat majority but its clearly a result on a knife edge. For example a Green party breakthorough in Melbourne or Sydney would throw the dust into the air. A few surprise results could turn the outcome.

Mark
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Mark,

Thanks for the Horary Link to this event. :-?

On election evening I am thinking of setting up Solar Fire with the chart set up on the animated wheel over the time to watch the vote count as the results begin coming in.

On another not for Former PM Kevin Rudd's 26 year old daughter Jessica released her first novel - 'Campaign Ruby' - a book with a plot based on a Prime Minister over thrown by his female Deputy! Jessica had no idea as to how prophetic this 'light novel' would be. :???: By Riverbend Books if the notion takes you.

Mark, your comment on the 'dust being thrown in the air' by the Green Party will sure hit the mark with the Capricorn Moon - spot on. :-?

Julie K

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Latest results in the election count suggest a dead heat between Labor and the Coalition and a hung parliament for the first time since 1940 in Australia:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11048968

ABC Australia predicts a final breakdown of seats as follows:

Coalition 73
Labour 72
Green 01
Independents 04

In an historic breakthough the Australian Green party have won their first seat in the lower house (House of Representatives). This is for the seat of Melbourne in Victoria.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... ction.html

Julia Gillard has quoted Bill Clinton: "The people have spoken but it's going to take a little while to determine exactly what they've said.''

The post election negotiations will now begin with both Labor and the Liberal-National party Coalition trying to woo the support of independents and the Greens. However, there seems little debate that Labor have done poorly in the election and lost their prior electoral majority of 17. The electoral swing has definitely went to the Coalition. Tony Abbott might be a 'mad monk', but he's won the election campaign, regardless of whether or not he won the election. Labor has been punished by the Australian electorate. Clearly, the sole Green will not support the Liberal-National party coalition. However, most of the independents are former National party members from rural areas. Its seems more likely they will swing their support behind Tony Abbott. However, they will no doubt negotiate as many concessions as possible for their local constituencies first before offering any support.

Its looking like my prediction (based on the Aries Ingress chart) that the Labor party would lose power is still 'game on' if the Coalition can form a government with the help of independents. :shock:
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Mark,

We do appear to have a hung Parliment after yesterday's Federal election.

There are still three seats in doubt atm.

http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/ or Google Australian Federal Election 2010.

Labor 70

Coalition 72

Greens 1

Others 4

The three seats in doubt are:

Brisbane LNP ahead

Corangamite ALP ahead

Lindsay ALP Ahead

Counting will continue today but with Postal Votes yet to come in the result may not be known for some days.

Julie K

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There are still three seats in doubt atm.


Hi Julie,

Yes if those seats go as projected the final seat tally will be as I provided above from ABC. However, with the results so tight several recounts are likely. Postal voting is also still coming in.

The 'kingmakers' are now the sole Green and four independents. Its likely the two left-leaning MPs, the Green and a former Green candidate, will support Labor.

This leaves the three conservative rural independents who are being called 'The Three Amigos'. They are all former members of the National party. Theoretically this should favour Tony Abbott but the previous bad blood with the minor coalition party partner makes it difficult to predict where they might go. Numerically, both sides can use the numbers to their advantage. For example the coalition parties got significantly more first preference votes while taking second preferences into account Labor did better overall. On the other hand Julia Gillard presided over an election which saw the loss of a 17 seat majority to a likely outcome with one less seat than the Coalition.

Specific local issues may be very influential too. For example the ALP committment to invest 43 billion Australian dollars in supplying high speed broadband across the nation. This is a significant issue in poorly served rural areas. Bob Katter, one of the independents has already stated he wants broadband and infrastructure investment for his thinly populated electorate that stretches over an area more than twice the size of Victoria. With Tony Abbott on record opposing this plan the Coalition face a real challenge satisfying this demand.

The three independents are to meet in Canberra in a few days and have already indicated they will act together on whether they join a Labor or Liberal party led coalition.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... migos.html

Adding to the confusion , a West Australian Nationals candidate has unseated Liberal Wilson Tuckey, an MP since 1980. Relations are strained between the WA Nationals and the Liberals. The new WA Nationals MP Tony Crook has stated he cannot necessarily be counted in the Coalition numbers. Mr Crook says he is an "independent voice" for regional WA and has vowed not to sit in the Coalition party room.

In practical terms a Labor led coalition would probably find it easier to get its legislative agenda through the Senate, where major parties rarely hold majorities. The Greens' record support in the polls increased the party's Senate seats from five to nine, giving them the leverage to become kingmaker in deciding which major party controls that chamber.

Even if a Liberal party led coalition is formed its likely to face legislative gridlock opposed by a majority Labor-Green grouping in the Senate.

Whatever, way this goes its likely to be an unstable arrangement so another election seems quite likely within a year to 18 months. Whoever forms the next government will have the tactical advantage of being able to announce another Federal election at a time of their choosing.

Mark
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The ABC's veteran election analyst, Antony Green, says who ends up forming the next government may come down to the Western Australian seat of Hasluck. Liberal Ken Wyatt is poised to become the nation's first Indigenous member of the House of Representatives. But he is less than 400 votes ahead of Labor's Sharryn Jackson, with postal votes, absent votes and provisional votes still to be counted. Green says final counting of these votes may take until midway through next week.

Green says if Mr Roy does win Hasluck, that would likely give the Coalition 73 seats. If they could then strike a deal with the three independents - Tony Windsor, Bob Katter and Rob Oakeshott - they would have a combined 76 seats, could appoint a speaker and govern. Without the seat of Hasluck the Coalition would only have 75 seats even if they could gain the support of the three conservative independents. The House of Representatives would then be exactly split 50/50.

Here is a You Tube recording of the ABC interview with Antony Green:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3O953s7 ... r_embedded

What a cliff hanger! As Green stated 'this is clearly, by far the closest election result in Australian history.''

Mark
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bob brown and the australian greens party will be under tremendous pressure for the next few years. as of 1 july next year, they will hold the balance of power in our senate.

i hope bob will be ok, as he has some strong transits coming up towards the end of this year, 2010,

11 september, t.saturn square n.sun;
20 september, t.saturn conjt n.neptune;
29 september, t.saturn square n.saturn;

and, just a few days after he turns 66;

31 december, t.pluto conjt n.sun at 5 degrees 19 secs capricorn.

its also interesting to note that these transits are close to australia's n.saturn at 7 degrees 43 secs and the n.sun at 10 degrees 4 secs of capricorn.

life will be intense for our bob towards the end of 2010 and in early 2011.
elderwoman

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The Australian Greens party do certainly now have unprecedented influence with 9 Senators giving them the balance of power in the Australian upper house (Senate).

The sole Greens MP in the House of Representatives has also indicated he will be supporting the Labor party. Should Julia Gillard manage to form a coalition government this will give the Greens influence there too.

Here is the untimed chart for the founding of the Australian Greens:
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Here is a bi-wheel with the Greens party chart in the middle and the close of poll chart on the outside.
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elderwoman,

Dont loose sight of T Saturn moving to conjunct Julia Gillard's N Sun @ 6/03 Libra. If he does become PM she will experience blocks,delays in 'moving forward'.

There are still 3 seats hanging in the balance and we may not know for some time the party that will win these seats - weeks was metioned on TV news this morning! This relies on the Postal Votes yet to be to come and be added to the count.

We do have Mercury Retro @ 18/14 Virgo atm - retros back to 5/39 Virgo on Sept 11, 2010 in Australia's 5th House trine Australia's 10/03 Cap Sun and moving back over Mars @ 11/39 Virgo.

The T N Node is conj Australia's N Sun atm.

Julie K

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Hi Julie,

You have reminded me that I we have not examined the natal chart of either Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott. This was intentional on my part before the election as I take the view that transits dont necessarily show political success in a clear cut way. The example of ex US Presidential candidate John Kerry comes to mind. He had good transits on the polling day vs Bush. He still lost. :???:

Clearly, this day represented the pinnacle of his political career. However, it didn't indicate winning the Presidential contest. Incumbent candidates can show positive transits on losing. This can represent release from the pressures of office and a happier personal time with family.

Still, it is worth a look now to see what the charts augur. First off Tony abbott and then Julia Gillard. Unfortunately we dont have a timed chart for either of them.
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There are still 3 seats hanging in the balance and we may not know for some time the party that will win these seats - weeks was metioned on TV news this morning! This relies on the Postal Votes yet to be to come and be added to the count.
Hello Julie,

I understand the Australian preferential voting system is more complex than the simple plurality systems of first past the post in the UK and USA. What I dont understand is why you still have postal votes coming in so late after the election? In the UK I believe the deadline to return them is before the General election. However in Australia I believe you accept postal votes coming in up to the end of August? :???:

Is this to accommodate the isolated rural parts of Australia and the large Australian population living overseas?

Mark
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I haven't had time to get into discussion of either Abbott or Gillard's chart yet. I will hopefully get back to that soon. Please feel welcome to drop by and make any observations. In the meantime here are both their charts again. This time as bi-wheels. Inner chart is their natal charts. Outer charts are transits for close of polls time.
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