Asc ruler conjunct 12th ruler in eminence position. That`s enough for me

Thanks for your answers and thoughts on the subject of the Nodes. I must admit I find Vedic astrology hard to digest, as I know nothing about it and the terminology is quite alien to me. Still, from what you said Varuna and also Mark, it seems that my understanding of the Southnode being a force that limits or destroys the planet's capability to act, was wrong.
I found an article by Benjamin Dykes on the subject, in which he states that there's both a qualitative and quantitative increase (NN) and decrease (SN). S-node decreases the good of the benefics and the bad of the malefics and therefore sometimes acts as a malefic and sometimes as a benefic. In the chart presented here it seems to do just that, Venus is as strong as ever in the 10th, but less beneficial. The quanitative decrease shows itself not in a diminishing of the planet's strength to act, but in a destruction of the affairs of the house it is in. 'It empties out'. And this too it does, reputation, honours, professional rewards, all gone. Although it seems to me, that just the SN's position in a house, without any close connection to its rulers, can't be enough to do that. We all have a SN, can't imagine a whole area of life is destroyed on account of having it there.

So I do feel this point has been clarified for me.
And Mark, I've become quite ambitious about finding a chart with Mars conjunct SN, will let you know when I find one

Cheers,
Yuki

Yukionna wrote:I've become quite ambitious about finding a chart with Mars conjunct SN, will let you know when I find one

How about this one:

Ted Bundy
Nov 24 1946
10:35 pm (EST)
Burlington, Vermont
44?N28'33" / 073?W12'45"

Mars at 13Sa22 conjunct SN at 11Sa42

or

Brad Pitt
Dec 18 1963
6:31 am (CST)
Shawnee, Oklahoma
35?N19'38" / 096?W55'30"

Mars at 10Cp02 conjunct SN at 11Cp10


james

mars on south node in the charts of athletes.. astrodatabank.com is a helpful research tool for those unaware of it..

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Biondi,_Matt
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Did ... %22Babe%22
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Spitz,_Mark


mars conjunct north node

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Armstrong,_Lance
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pele
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lewis,_Carl
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Rigby,_Cathy

mars square nodal axis

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Montana,_Joe

Thanks to James + James!

I have been doing this the hard way and have worked my way through the entire Clifford Data files on Solar Fire.

I found these charts too eventually but thanks for the help. I plan to continue collecting data on this topic.

Both Spitz and Biondi certainly qualify as first rate sportsmen. I wouldn't count Didrickson as Mars is so far from the Nodes. Although the question of what orbs to use for the nodes is itself a debate. I tend to give focus to planets within 3 degrees but would probably go up to 5 degrees. Of course one could argue the influence extends as far as the planetary orbs as the nodes are invisible points.


Mark Spitz
A world-record holder and Olympic swimmer. During the Munich 1972 Olympics he won seven gold medals (from 28 August to 4 September 1972).

Matt Biondi.
He won seven medals (three golds) at the 1986 world championships and another seven (with five golds) in the 1988 Seoul Olympics.

Both Spitz and Biondi have Mars in a night chart so it is in sect.

Another sportsman with Mars on the NN is the Australian Tennis champion John Newcombe. Newcome won several Grand Slam tournaments in the late 1960's and 1970's including Wimbledon (1967, 1970, 1971), The US Open (1967, 1973) and The Australian Open (1973, 1975).

Mark