Janis Valkovskis wrote: I noted that the hour switches from Moon's to Saturn's in 3 minutes. This seems to be the pattern of "the guards cought on the bridge" and quite often has proved to be a draw.

I like this rule, it proved so much times!

That's so nice of you say, Goca! I am sorry, I overlooked Janis' observation.
Please remind me to buy both of you drinks!

Please note that in every case where I include the lord of planetary hour, I am using a Regiomontanus house-based system, which means I am reading it straight out of the chart according to the position of the Sun in the sky and not doing the additional invisible calculations. The difference is the divergence between the quadrant house system and the placidus 'time-based' system. If you change house systems on the chart provided, you will see what I mean; the Sun is on the cusp of the Placidus 8th and the planetary hour is about to change, but not according to Regiomontanus. According to Regimontanus the Sun moves from the 8th to the 7th house at about 18.25 CSET. This means that there could be several options for when the planetary hour changes and you will have to recalculate, or maybe I should find a manner of registering that I am including the 'Hours' from a Regiomontanus and Quadrant perspective. Ficina, our previous moderator, asked me to be particular on this point on a previous occasion.

My basic notion, however, is not to switch systems and that everything should be able to be read out of the chart, or sky - as it were, but in the end we will learn something from this issue because we are also facing the problem of various house systems. So either way, we learn in the end.

Guards getting caught on the Bridge
The concept of the guards getting caught on the bridge, is actually one of my early fabrications here at Skyscript sports, based upon the thought that the troops are temporarily put out of action and the battle or contest ceases and gets caught in a 'dead zone' (or 'truce') just as the planetary hour/lord of the hour are changing position. It is like a changing of offices or 'watch shift' and the whole proceedure may take a few minutes as troops march in and out and the guards are being released. If a match starts just on the change of shifts and the guards are caught on the bridge, as it were, and we seem to be having some success in using this condition to help us pick the draws.

I would hope that this only were the beginning of our mutual discoveries and winnings. The basic thought is that every different type of radicality, or contract between the Lord of the hour and the radical ascendant and it's lord, creates a different condition from which we can derive meaning that will guide us to understand either the quality or the outfall of the match or contest.

We also seem to have 'discovered' that radicality proven by a contract of triplicity, i.e the Lord of the hour rules the ascendant by triplicity, or the Lord of the hour and the lord of the asc are in different signs of the same triplicity (the exception being that the Lord of the Hour being in the same sign as the Lord of the ascendant giving advantage to the team represented by the ascendant), gives testimony to a draw. The reasoning for this occurance would be, in my terms, that the triplicities are built of circle of several signs and therefore tend to share things around.

Saturday's pick:

Germany - Portugal, 21.45 CEST Arena Lviv.
Odds: 2,10 3,30 3,75

As Goca points out further down, I made an error in the entry of time zone. So I have removed my entry and the correct chart follows after Goca's remarks.

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PS. There were two red cards in yesterday's game between Poland and Greece.
The Sun was in a tight square with Mars, perfect earlier in the day.

Type of Radicality

When the Lord of the Hour proves the chart radical, yet is delibitated in the sign on the ascendent by detriment or fall, then this may tend to indicate and obstacle or deterr the quality of the game. The best team may not win. We have several examples with a Scorpio ascendant in the hour of the Moon where the favourite was overrunning their opponent but simply couldn't make the net. In Yesterday's match Poland were great favourites, yet the match ended a draw and there were two red cards.

Maybe we can check this out in further occasions? The Capricorn ascendant in the Hour of the Moon in this evenings game between Germany and Portugal - it has to be observed!

But Mars, who is the natural significator of Germany, and conjunct POF, is exalted in the ascendant - so he has double strength.

Andrew, this chart is wrong, time zone in Lviv is GMT+3! ASC=23Sag47!

I would asign Germany to DSC ruler, Me in Pi as they wear white sport kit. Moon is VOC so favorite wins or draw. Favorite is Germany, acc dig do not differ so much, but APOF is right on IC so I think Germany will win. Also, Ju ruler of Portugal is on last degree.The 29th degree shows desperation, impatience, misfortune.

Thank you for putting me right, Goca!
It is a good thing someone is paying attention!

Germany - Portugal, 21.45 CEST Arena Lviv. (+3)
Odds: 2,10 3,30 3,75
Asc 23SG47 MC 25LI41 Moon 29AQ40 POF 4VI07
Day Saturn, Hour Mercury - not radical?
Mercury, who is lord of the hour, an L7, casts a sextile through signs of long ascension to POF, whom he disposes in Virgo. The Moon is still, within the orb of her body, in an exact square with Jupiter, lord of the 1st house, though signs of short ascension. If the square through signs of short ascension turns to a sextile and the sextile through signs of long ascension turns to a square, then maybe Germany will prevail.

I can see our approaches are slightly different. When there is no home team, I would give POF and MC to the favourite by odds - and then the ascendant. I'm not into the suit color stuff, but I'll be watching with interest - you've been right before!

I don't want to commit jugdement on this chart, seeing that my mind already is in a clutter and the mixture of testimonies and approach.

I can't choose between the two rulers for Germany v Portugal so will go for a draw and hope for the best. I prefer the Holland v Denmark game due to Jup ruler of favourites Holland this time strengthened through angularity and having Moon applying rather than separating (as with Ger v Po).

Andrew Bevan wrote:Thank you for putting me right, Goca!
It is a good thing someone is paying attention!

Germany - Portugal, 21.45 CEST Arena Lviv. (+3)
Odds: 2,10 3,30 3,75
Asc 23SG47 MC 25LI41 Moon 29AQ40 POF 4VI07
Day Saturn, Hour Mercury - not radical?

Mercury, who is lord of the hour, an L7, casts a sextile through signs of long ascension to POF, whom he disposes in Virgo. The Moon is still, within the orb of her body, in an exact square with Jupiter, lord of the 1st house, though signs of short ascension. If the square through signs of short ascension turns to a sextile and the sextile through signs of long ascension turns to a square, then maybe Germany will prevail.

I can see our approaches are slightly different. When there is no home team, I would give POF and MC to the favourite by odds - and then the ascendant. I'm not into the suit color stuff, but I'll be watching with interest - you've been right before!

I don't want to commit jugdement on this chart, seeing that my mind already is in a clutter and the mixture of testimonies and approach.

Andrew...this is yesterdays chart.

Andrew...this is yesterdays chart. Confused

Actually, Daz, the chart is right. Do you see the moon at Aquarius' last degrees?
It's almost same as your previous post HOL vs DEN.

Yes you are correct, although the Moon is separating so in Germany's case it may prevent a victory for them, the slight favourites, whereas it applies to favourites ruler, JU in Hollands case so I expect a win for them. I just think the Holland game is easier to predict astrologically whereas the Germany game is more of a confusion of influences.

lol Denmark have just scored..its going to be an interesting evening.

Yes, when ever tranzit Moon is in Aq we can expect surprises!
This is realy strange, althought there were applying aspect between Moon and Ju/ruler of Holland (according to color of sport kit) they lose. Probably because of that fact that their ruler was on last degree and in conjunction with unforunate fixed star Alcyone .