Hi
Here is link to BBC article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11388628
may prove interesting for Kim Jung un year of birth.

A few lines from article> His mother was thought to be Kim Jong-il's favourite wife, and she clearly doted on her son, reportedly calling him the "Morning Star King".

This may ?? give hint to year of birth as 1984. See charts provided by James. The 82 chart has Jupiter Saturn Mars high in the morning sky.

The 83 chart has Jupiter Moon Saturn also high in the morning sky.

Rotate 84 chart to slightly pre sunrise so that Mercury also is above
horizon at Heliacal rising Jan 8 1984 = five of the old seven planets are visible. Not visible Sun Moon

Here is an astro link I found regarding above : http://solarisastrology.blogspot.com/20 ... rules.html
Michaelb

michaelb

thanks for sharing this. apparently the chef was saying 1983, not 1984.. it is an interesting idea you present here in connection with the name 'morning star'.. hard to know the basis for that, but i am sticking with the chef's comments and my own analysis of his chart at this point.. i did enjoy going to the site you shared, so thanks again for that!

Hi James
The name Morning Star King, is to ask folks over in the Chinese Astrology forum here on Skyscript if they have heard the term used in Chinese Star Lore. If such is found then does it describe a cluster of morning stars or only one such as Venus. If say Venus rising in Chinese Star Lore heralds in the birth of a New King then unless his mother was feeding dis/information, the 84 chart would be his year of birth. Or it /the star lore/ also could be Mercury rising /heliacal/ making his morning Appearance and that to is what the 84 Mercury was doing. So perhaps those deep into Chinese Star Lore may fill us in to any significance if any of the term Morning Star King. Michaelb

hi michael,

indeed if the morning star has anything to do with mercury or venus rising, it is only the 1984 chart that have this and we are left wondering just whether this is a term used generally or specifically to his birth.

i did find this on the net, but it doesn't really tell me too much other then that the month of january might have a connection to the 'morning star' idea.. that is how i read this little bit anyway.. the person who wrote this doesn't seem to know that much about the difference between morning star and evening star as mercury and venus or any planet can be called this..
http://bookoflife.org/history/china/CH0 ... rology.htm

if kim jong un was born before sunrise jupiter could be viewed as a 'morning star' of sorts.. obviously we are at the mercy of a number of variables here.