mothers birthdate off the net - Zubeidat Tsarnaev 8 May 1967 somewhere in russia.

Quindecile -165 degrees is an aspect of obsession in synastry.
The maternal influence was such.
There are approx 165 degrees between the sun of Zubeidat to Tamerlane.
8May to 21Oct.

distance from moms sun for noon may 8 1967 moscow( close enough for now) is 17 taurus 05 ( right on the eclipse line) to her eldest sons sun degree for noon 0ct 21 1986 elista, russia at 27 libra 40 is 160 degrees 35 minutes..

maybe you'd like to go with a 9th harmonic aspect between the 2 charts instead? there is an exact opposition sun to saturn in the composite chart which will be fairly close and suggests a more reserved or potentially cold dynamic between the two off this alone without insight into the rest of the chart data. this is backed up with the saturn moon opposition in tamerlans chart as well.

in the composite chart below which is built off midpoints, we can't really consider the moon/jupiter conjunction given the fact the moon moves 12-14 degrees per day which will throw a big question mark on this config without specific birth times for both of them.


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one interesting cross connection between the moms birth date and her sons is the location of the nodal axis in relation to the planets on each others charts. i'm thinking specifically of that mars/pluto square in tamerlans birthdate with the nodal axis of his moms right on the same degree.. the other connection is tamerlans nodal axis with his moms mars on the south node.. that is a lot of mars or mars/pluto connection with the nodal axis of each others.

in the case of dzhokhar and his moms birthdates while the nodal axis doesn't seem to be as engaged, the moms pluto conjunct dzhokhars mars while her mars squares his mercury are 2 noticeable mars ties in's with the 2 charts.

there are many connections with the mom and sons charts that i haven't touched on. without specific birth times we are back to reading babylonian charts essentially - day charts without a fixed time to give us the really vital information gotten off the angles.

Using the data given for the mother and a noon birth time yields a natal Mars-Saturn midpoint at 102?09' of right ascension, a progressed Saturn square to it at 11?36' and transit Pluto at 282?17' opposite the midpoint and square the progressed Saturn for the equivalent chart of the Apr 19, 1 am, shootout in Massachusetts (8 am, Moscow).

Certainly trying times for a mother separated from her children, one of whom has been killed and another wounded, both in a country in which she herself could face imprisonment if she enters it.

Is this karma or just astrology working out? I don't know but the Pluto transit to her chart is striking.