lifestudent wrote: As for the second chart now posted when I tell you I did cast another chart some days before I applied, just on the day when I decided that I would and I asked the question "will I get the job if I apply" and that chart indicates a yes answer to me as the ruler of ASC, Saturn is placed in 10th house with NNode and is in trine with Jupiter, the ruler of MC.

It would be interesting to know, why at all you asked a second question (i. e. the first chart you have posted, as far as I understand).

With regard to your fist question (lates chart posted now):
Not every trine can perfect the matter. The significators should have a certain dignity and be posited in good houses.

And here at least Saturn seems to be a problem, him being without any dignity and thus peregrine.

As to the houses: Why don't you post a 'mainstream' Regiomontanus chart? Every one like you, who prefers whole sign houses, can derive these houses from a chart with Regiomontanus houses - and this at the first glance. But to derive Regiomontanus houses from whole sign houses, given only AC and MC, is impossible.

Ok, Morpheus... the reason I did not have an answer for all of those is simply because I just started reading upon horary so I do not have the knowledge to think of all those points. But I found it a very interesting subject that I'd like to laarn more about and I post charts with my own question also in rder to learn from it, not ONLY to get the answer to my question and of curiousity.

The reason I asked twice (although normally you should not do so unless your question becomes more specific) is because someone advised me that it might give more clear answers when you have actually already applied so "the other" knows about you and then you can ask more specifically, when you have more information.

So the chart I casted on the 12.12. was before the job was advertised, but I had heard of it through my family member. Then I asked her a bit more about it and I decided to go for it and started feeling the desire. ... then as I applied I thought it would maybe be good to cast a chart to see what message it gives.

Sorry Regio practisers, you are indeed right Johannes - I am of course able to convert the houses in my mind with a whole sign approach
Here is the chart in Regio:

Interesting to note that Bonatti considers long and short ascension signs in different manner than others - and takes note of northern/polar latitudes therefore.
http://www.horaryastrology.info/2010/02 ... gment.html

Did any of you consider that if you have the ASC in a sign of short ascension you view early and late degrees in the first and last 5? of those signs BUT in the case of long ascension you would have a much narrower interval - so if he uses 5? for short ascension and 3? for normal ascension, then one must assume that "late and early" degrees of ASC in long ascension sign like Cancer in the case of the first chart I posted might actually be only in 29? and 1? ?


Would you normally say that only the other chart from 12.12. is "valid" as it was the first chart casted for this particular job as I had my mind on it?

Am looking into articles about short and long ascensions as it also can change the aspects, a square could actually be a trine they say.


In the chart from 12.12. would you not say that Saturn is in joy?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/joy.php

According to one theory a planet is in joy when, itself in debility, another planet with which it enjoys some similarity is posited in one of its Dignities. Thus Saturn was presumed to experience a sympathetic joy when Mars is in Capricorn, the Sign ruled by Saturn, and in which Mars is exalted; also that it there opposes and afflicts Cancer, ruled by the Moon. It feels a "joy" when Mercury is posited in either of its triplicities, since the Signs they rule belong to the same Triplicities: Capricorn-Virgo and Aquarius-Gemini. Also when Venus is in either of its Signs, because both trine Saturn's Signs: Taurus-Capricorn, Libra-Aquarius.

You can see that Mars is actually placed in the sign of Saturn's exaltation and Venus is placed inside Capricorn/domicile.

Saturn also seems to be in a perfect trine to Jupiter.

There is no such thing on my mind as dishonesty or trickery.
I am just excited about this job and my intention was just to ask about that and learn some horary at the same time.