rob wrote:Thema Mundi: it is interesting what you say. I was told that the Thema Mundi was a teaching tool and not a valid chart (e.g. Firmicus says that). On the other hand it's possible that he was wrong.
The problem is that we can never be sure if planetary positions are valid or not at such ancient dates.

It is a teaching tool, but might not be "just a teaching tool". If one can turn it into an actual chart, then the natural progress of the world can be plotted from the circular periods of the planets. Given that these each have 4 winds, one can find the prevailing winds of the current "zeitgeist" and know whether one is primarily "with the current" or "swimming upstream" which of course has implications for eminence consideration in each nativity.

zoidsoft wrote:

rob wrote:Thema Mundi: it is interesting what you say. I was told that the Thema Mundi was a teaching tool and not a valid chart (e.g. Firmicus says that). On the other hand it's possible that he was wrong.
The problem is that we can never be sure if planetary positions are valid or not at such ancient dates.

It is a teaching tool, but might not be "just a teaching tool". If one can turn it into an actual chart, then the natural progress of the world can be plotted from the circular periods of the planets. Given that these each have 4 winds, one can find the prevailing winds of the current "zeitgeist" and know whether one is primarily "with the current" or "swimming upstream" which of course has implications for eminence consideration in each nativity.

Interesting, Curtis. I presume you are using the Tropical zodiac when searching for this figure?

Konrad wrote:

zoidsoft wrote:

rob wrote:Thema Mundi: it is interesting what you say. I was told that the Thema Mundi was a teaching tool and not a valid chart (e.g. Firmicus says that). On the other hand it's possible that he was wrong.
The problem is that we can never be sure if planetary positions are valid or not at such ancient dates.

It is a teaching tool, but might not be "just a teaching tool". If one can turn it into an actual chart, then the natural progress of the world can be plotted from the circular periods of the planets. Given that these each have 4 winds, one can find the prevailing winds of the current "zeitgeist" and know whether one is primarily "with the current" or "swimming upstream" which of course has implications for eminence consideration in each nativity.

Interesting, Curtis. I presume you are using the Tropical zodiac when searching for this figure?

I tried the other extreme of 26 degrees user defined ayanamsa, but one planet is always out.