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Hi Javed,

I've read thru some of your blogs.

You'll need to expand the Astrology a bit for me to appreciate what you are saying.

I note that you maybe tying in a recent Solar Eclipse into the UK Election. Perhaps you could expand that as it is a very interesting fact.

Tying in Eclipses is hard thing to do but very significant.

Thanks,

H

Hi again Javed,

Thanks for moving your post to this thread. I don't think you should resign your membership.

Yes I agree sometimes this Site seems to welcome only those who already know the answers.

I think all that is hoped for is that we build on each other's knowledge which does mean reading other people's posts.

Share a little more of your workings.

I notice that the 8th of June is a reactivation of the 19? Pisces Eclipse back on the 8th March 2016 by the t.Sun. Now that is significant.

And the Eclipse also receives t.Jupiter in early July. That is heap big medicine.

It is hard to model Eclipses as they can hang around for several if NOT many many years.

I think we have a wild week ahead next week.

Here is a chart I just drew up.

"Could Corbyn win?" 23.27hrs UKST 30th May 2017 Horsham. UK

My charts are usually full of crystal clear information, if ONLY I knew what it meant !!

Corby then is Pluto fueled Capricorn rising v Cancer, using the Mark method. r.Saturn in the 12th trines the Moon in Leo.

Lots of "what's the word?" in there.

Leo intercepted.

Of course Saturn in the 12th isn't great but it is at Home.

Pluto making +VE aspects to the MC and IC ?

H

My understanding of astrology is only based on the simpler aspects because I see things a little different and do not include all information from mainstream astrology as legitimate.

A point on astrology of political leanings. I have noticed that Libran ascendant tends to lean towards left wing thinking. I have an Aries ascendant and even when surrounded by very left wing people, with no other option. I do not go left wing.

I do not know that we can actually forecast an election because that would mitigate free will. Someone always has the opportunity to accept an influence or rebel against it. As in the case of Uranus the intuitive truth or a hyper rationalised evasion of it.

I would say Theresa will get her mandate and issues to do with the EU will take immediate precedence as shown by Saturn next to the full moon on June 9th and opposing the sun in late Gemini when EU negotiations start.

Jupiter going direct in Libra on June 9th will mean that this ongoing theme of "fairness" we have seen in this election will suddenly be practically applied.

I'm fully expecting June 9th to be a very intense day, possibly with some surprises, owing to these two influences.

Hi Folks,

I just noticed that thru the day of the Vote on the 8th we get a tough aspect between the Sun and r.Pluto via an inconjunction. That can be very stressful and has serious issues as it is between the big themes in our Lives.

The Feral power seeking of r.Pluto in Capricorn. The two faced desperate Sun in Gemini.

That's a right old mess but I suppose by definition inconjunctions deliver that. I wonder if anybody has written up the natural disharmony between Signs in inconjunction?

H

PS Also the 8th June is a reactivation of the 8th March 2016 which was fairly problematic.

Wow, this forum certainly is empty. This is the fourth day and I have had two responses. None to me specifically just in the same threads as me.

In my understanding Inconjuncts are when things are indirectly connected, but it is not good to directly connect them.

Due to past life reasons (talking to someone from who knew me in a past life as someone very different) in synastry I had many inconjuncts with this person. This meant that coincidentally I never talked directly to them but we both communicated a fair bit (I think) indirectly.

This means that on the election people will be thinking of Plutonian themes i.e. at the moment that would be the "Illuminati". But no one will talk about it directly.

I have looked in the past at Jupiter going direct. For 2016, the only really significant thing that I can find is that the French riots erupted on that day.

Also, people seem to be more vocal in arguing against EU policy.

Both these could clearly apply.

When this specific retrograde cycle was going retrograde there was enthusiasm that turned out to be false about Stoke and UKIP (so will this have brought realism to UKIP?) and there was a lot regarding feminism.

Jupiter in Libra will likely sift through the whole feminism thing. As in we have had the Wonder Woman cinema stuff in this retrograde period.

(Later edit 4th June... UKIP, could be a big surprise, I've started to put it together now (the astrology came first) but if Craig McKinley was arrested for his overspending in the campaign, it is likely that other Conservatives and even possibly Labour will not repeat that mistake. This means UKIP stands a lot more of a chance and polls such as these: https://order-order.com/2017/06/03/satu ... one-place/ (all of them included) are forecasting UKIP with four or five seats. This has gone basically unnoticed by the commentators but UKIP have only ever had two seats and one of those was someone committed to sabotaging the party (which Douglas Carswell has now admitted). Five UKIP MP's in the House of Commons will really shake things up.)

Rocko said: "on the 8th we get a tough aspect between the Sun and r.Pluto via an inconjunction. That can be very stressful and has serious issues as it is between the big themes in our Lives."

I think a peg-and-hole analogy can be useful for understanding inconjuncts. If we think of the easy aspects as the two planets complementing each other, like a peg and hole, and the hard aspects as conflicting, like two pegs trying to occupy the same space, then the inconjunct and semi-sextile are perhaps more like two holes coming together ? there's no direct engagement between them. From that perspective, they're perhaps only important when there's a third planet activating them: each one then experiences the third planet as being modified by something that it cannot see directly.

You mention June 8th being a re-activation of 8th March 2016. There's also a potent resonance in Jupiter turning direct, the next day, aspecting the April 2014 Grand Cross (Jupiter/Pluto square Mars/Uranus), and then Neptune turning retrograde, a week later, also aspecting that configuration (though more loosely).

With those two stationing, inconjunct each other, during the week following the ballot, I'm wondering if the YouGov poll pointing to a hung Parliament may have it right (though that poll is an outlier, and assumes that young people will turn out in much greater numbers than they have in the past). I'd say an atmosphere of uncertainty and confusion during that post-ballot period looks quite likely.

But, looking at secondary progressions of the UK 1801 chart, I think the outcome of the election is less interesting than what's going to happen over the next three or four years. Over the next eighteen months, Mercury retrograde will square Neptune, conjunct Jupiter, semi-square Uranus and conjunct Sun, and Jupiter will square Neptune. In July 2019, Sun will semi-square Uranus then, in 2020, it will square Neptune and conjunct Jupiter, while Venus squares Uranus, ingresses into Cancer and sesquiquadrates Neptune (all progressed to progressed).

I'm hoping that heralds the country finally getting to grips with the flaws in our constitution but that might be wishful thinking. Whatever way it manifests, I think we're still only in the early stages of some interesting times.

Thanks to Malcolm and Pheonix####,

It is time we made some concrete predictions isn't it. Javed made his then did a runner.

Secondary Progressions are where's it is at isn't it. But you need to get the correct natal chart. Then a lot of work and then gently turn it as the years progress.

Horary also excellent if you can be honest.

My very High Level Rolling Mundane analysis is the least accurate but I enjoy it.

And it does show a deteriorating situation now, especially once The Node separates from Uranus trine today around 8.30am. This has been a curse for me as we've had two Saturn Uranus type trines now for months. Very strong.

The Node is said to be like Saturn. Unless you've read a book where it is said to be like planet X, or another where it is said to be like planet Y ....

A lot of -VEs towards the end of the week and into next. The all important Eclipse reactivation that really can produce a Cat Out of the Bag .

I think Mark showed that an old Eclipse might have been reactivated around the time of the Referendum Vote.

I'm yet to see a successful way of modelling old Eclipses. But once I've done so I'll be invading Poland and the rest of the World .. And expecting Eternal Life.

Eclipses are a bit like Land Mines. They get laid down and then they get reactivated months later by the Sun, or Mars, or Jupiter, or Saturn etc. This can go on and on for years, but generally I feel for about two years in General Mundane work.

Apple launched their I-Pad on a very +VE Eclipse and a year later when the Sun returned to the Eclipse Point they announced massive sales figures. The Share Price shot up about 20%.

Can't add much more.

H

Malcolm Ramsey said:

But, looking at secondary progressions of the UK 1801 chart, I think the outcome of the election is less interesting than what's going to happen over the next three or four years.

This is what I believe. In my 4 year analysis the Uk chart showed a bit of excitement March-May but the rest of 2017 is not that noteworthy. 2018-2020 is much more so. I have "changes" relating to Royal family coming 2019-20 (which could of course, alternatively, be a constitutional crisis where the monarchy has to interfere).

Even so I am not sure UK is where the real action is over the period compared to some other nations.....

Having said that, I thought I'd take a look at the 1801 chart.

It is certainly very active, (especially transits to progressions) although with Brexit and the attacks, it is difficul to separate other events from election ones.

I note that the progressed Venus, progressed Moon conjunction is being activated by a sextile transiting Uranus and the opposition to retrograde transiting Saturn. Which seems to sum up the general situation. Although the moon is separating from Venus, which suggests reducing power both will reactivate the Uranus sextile which suggests a win for May.

But more interesting for election day is the fact that the transiting Sun is exactly conjoining the progressed Ascendant which is opposite the chart's natal Mercury.

On Friday the moon will reach that Mercury, so the full moon will be sitting on the progressed Descendant/Ascendant axis and the country's Mercury.

It is obviously highly significant, but how I can't really interpret. A full moon plus Gemini and Mercury suggest a country divided.

So no clear conclusion jumps out.

I was wrong on that earlier thing where I said that the polls have UKIP on five seats... That would be five points and no seats. But I didn't correct it because I was under the impression that nobody was paying attention.

Conservatives 401
Labour 213
SNP 46
Lib Dem 18
UKIP 2
Green 0
Other 20

I have found nothing interesting on previous Jupiter directs. I do think the EU will be an immediate theme (moon - Saturn) and feminism and Islamic terror/ Trump travel ban will be the theme for the week after the election. (Themes at the beginning of this retrograde cycle!)