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We now know that this ennead period in President Trump's life has become extremely dismal. After the dramatic show of support from supporters, Trump is being impeached for his role in inciting the riot/insurrection against the Capital. Social media has cancelled his accounts so he no longer has the platform to connect with his followers. His approval rating has fallen to 29 percent. It seems utterly impossible now, five days before the inauguration date, that there can be any circumstances that would give Trump a second term.

Astrologically, isn't hindsight wonderful?! I think it was Ouranos or James who asked about the hierarchy of procedures when analyzing the ennead chart.



Transiting Rahu at the MC conjunct natal Uranus in a Mars mansion, with Mars in the ennead 8th house and radix Mars in the 12th appears to be the dominant influence as we approach the inaugural date. The strong radix placement of Mars on the ascendant seems not to apply.

Also the sudden reversals for which Uranus is noted (set off by transiting Rahu): changing from Trump's delight at the show of support from his followers to impeachment for inciting the very riot that pleased him.

Rahu's dispositor Venus at the nadir/IC (retirement) with Ketu is accurate. Venus is also the mansion dispositor of the ennead ascendant lord, Sun, and of the Leo ascendant itself. In the interests of research, Trump's profection lord for the year is Venus. Here transiting Venus is at the nadir in the obscure 4th house.

As interpreted by Fagan school astrologers, Neptune on the 7th cusp (the opponent) in 90 degree aspect to 10th house Rahu and natal Uranus is dissolving a political career. No KP astrology here!

For interest here is President Trump's ten day quarter-ennead (36th solar harmonic) which began on the 13th of January.



This chart has the appropriate partile conjunctions to angles I have seen often in ennead charts. Cancer 9 deg 52' rises in the chart with Mars at the zenith at 9 Aries in a 90 degree relationship with the ascendant lord Moon and Saturn at 9 degrees on the 7th cusp. Thus, the ascendant lord is locked in by the Mars-Saturn configuration on the chart angles. But Jupiter is above the 7th cusp, though in its fall in Capricorn, so the Moon is placed between Jupiter and Saturn.

It's interesting that Venus, the profection lord (in radix 12th) rises with Saturn, and transiting Venus is on the cusp of the 6th house. I don't know if these positions are an accident or if the placement of the profection lord in ennead and quarter-ennead charts is significant. If this chart is set for the U.S. Capital building, Saturn and Moon are above the horizon, but lose the partile conjunction to the 7th cusp.

Sun, the planet of kings is in the 6th house, and natal Sun is in the 12th.

I think there is enough here to suggest that enneads (and quarter enneads--36th harmonic) are significant enough to warrant more study and research. But there are questions about interpretation.

Thank you Therese for your analysis,
In Trump's chart, it will be interesting to watch the Enneads when Neptune from the 8th squares his natal Moon(L12) in March and squares his natal Sun(L1) in May.
Health Health Health!

Ouranos, I think you might want to give some more thought to the zodiac question. Here is President Trump's current ennead in the Tropical zodiac. All the partile aspects are lost. Compare this chart to the sidereal ennead. The tropical ennead checks in a day earlier. We've lost the Moon-Neptune aspect among other things. The Neptune to Moon and Sun you mentioned for Trump concerning health also comes in later months sidereally. Recently I wrote a paper on the sidereal zodiac. If you PM an email address to me (not a Skyscript email), I'll send you a copy.

therese,

thanks for your response to my various comments.... i understand what the ennead charts are - 9th harmonic charts to the degree of the birth sun for the year in question, so the emphasis is on a harmonic to a natal position - the sun in this example... it seems pretty fair out and as i have already said, why not also use transit data to the solar return chart, if you are going to use 9th harmonic charts to the solar return chart which are also transit data - but specific to 9th harmonics of the natal sun position... but i see the question baffled you.. i don't mean to baffle you.... but i do mean to emphasize the importance of transit data in all of this... ordinarily transit data is only applied to the natal chart... these enneads are like a frozen transit data chart with the additional feature it is also a sun 9th harmonic chart with emphasis on the sun only 9th harmonic... i see nothing wrong in trying them out.. thanks for your examples and answering my questions.. cheers james

James wrote:

These enneads are like a frozen transit data chart with the additional feature it is also a sun 9th harmonic chart with emphasis on the sun only 9th harmonic..

Yes, the enneads can be seen as frozen transit charts, but it's important that they are harmonic based. I think we'll be finding that harmonics are one of the important keys to astrology. Of course Linchi's research is harmonic based. But other types of harmonics are important as well. I was sold on harmonics a long time ago when John Addey was publishing his books.

Ouranos wrote:

My own approach with Profections was to look at the Ruler of the Year in the Solar Return chart and Natal chart, see what it does and consider the Ruler of the SR ASC as an additional influence along with the Profected House being reached. And looking at Angular planets for weighing in the importance of the diagnostic.

It would be interesting to start a topic on profections with real life examples of these techniques.

Hi, Therese.

Therese Hamilton wrote:But other types of harmonics are important as well.

Which harmonics do you think are important and why are they important ? Is there any research or examples about this ?
D-Charts in Vedic astrology are important, but you don't mean those, I think.

A sub-school of Hamburg school, meant the 12-24,48,96,192,...... Harmonics important. For those astrologers who have claimed, I have prepared here small comparison of Harmonic 192 with Harmonic 256 to show how to compare the different harmonics and find out which harmonics are more important and correct than others.

https://archive.org/details/comparison- ... rmonic-192

I mean, you can compare different harmonics and find out which harmonics are the correct ones. Otherwise, the astrologers will not get out of it, as they did with the hause systems.
In my opinion, the one that gives the most accurate results is the right harmonics. It can be determined without speculations.

Linchi wrote:

Which harmonics do you think are important and why are they important ? Is there any research or examples about this ?
D-Charts in Vedic astrology are important, but you don't mean those, I think.

I was thinking of the D-Charts in Indian astrology as one use of harmonics. This is similar to the 9th and 36th harmonic charts based on the Sun that I've been recently studying.

John Addey came to various conclusions in his study of harmonics, but I haven't reviewd them in many years. However Geoffrey Dean has said (either in Tests of Astrology or personal correspondence) that research doesn't validate his conclusions.

Linchi, the way you use harmonics is giving us very specific signatures for diseases, for example. But we need a more general use of harmonics in order to read the natal or progressed chart in some detail about life conditions. This is the basis of India's varga (harmonic) charts. Could your use of harmonics have predicted the current conditions in President Trump's life? At least with the transit of Rahu on natal Uranus on the MC degree (Trump's current ennead) we could suggest predictions based on the meaning of Uranus and Rahu.

This means giving quotes from various sources as to the characteristics of Rahu and Uranus. Always it's testing timing and accepted characteristics. Do events match what is recorded about the nature of planets?

Therese Hamilton wrote:Linchi, the way you use harmonics is giving us very specific signatures for diseases, for example.

Not only that. Besides most important diseases I have done research on marriage, divorce, death of the person and relatives. These are, I think, the most important life events. I have never been interested in politics.
It should also be taken into account that my system is only 5 years old and is developed only by me, not like the other astrological schools that have been practiced and researched for many centuries by many astrologers.

Linchi wrote:

Not only that. Besides most important diseases I have done research on marriage, divorce, death of the person and relatives. These are, I think, the most important life events. I have never been interested in politics.

Yes, these are important life events. But how would you apply these specific harmonic patterns in the actual practice of astrology? (I might think, for example, that at the onset of cancer in a client, your cancer planets might manifest in the solar return chart?)

It should also be taken into account that my system is only 5 years old and is developed only by me, not like the other astrological schools that have been practiced and researched for many centuries by many astrologers.

It is standard research protocol that research must be replicated in other studies to be considered valid. So your research is the first step that must be validated either by similar studies by others or using other techniques that show the same patterns. We know that almost nothing in past astrological practice can be validated. Some of the Gauquelin work with planets is an exception.

Therese Hamilton wrote:But how would you apply these specific harmonic patterns in the actual practice of astrology? (I might think, for example, that at the onset of cancer in a client, your cancer planets might manifest in the solar return chart?)

I did not understand the sense of the questions, because I clearly wrote it in my research page 25 quite clearly.

"The cause of death is cancer when there is relationship between progressions (or Lunar,Solar etc.) and natal shown below.

NE/PL = NE/PL
NE/PL = SU
NE/PL = MA/SA"

That means you have to proceed as I have shown in my research. But if you only use the techniques you have used so far, you will not find anything. If anything had been found with the techniques that have been used so far, I would not have done any research.

It is standard research protocol that research must be replicated in other studies to be considered valid. So your research is the first step that must be validated either by similar studies by others or using other techniques that show the same patterns. We know that almost nothing in past astrological practice can be validated. Some of the Gauquelin work with planets is an exception.

I do not force anyone that he/she uses my techniques. It is free for the astrologers if they use my techniques and planetary pictures or not. My researches are not statistic researches as by Gauquelin. My planet pictures in my researches are 100% correct and I do not need confirmation from anyone.

Sorry, that was not my intention to interrupt your topic.

There is plenty of evidence that the ennead chart isn't just another transit chart. It's a fixed chart that is subject to transits itself. Here is Donald Trump's ennead with transits at 12 noon on the day of Joseph Biden's inauguration. This is the moment that Trump lost the presidency that he fought so hard to retain against all facts and logic.



For transits to the ennead chart we look only at partile aspects as we are working only within a 40 day period. (I am using a 30 minute orb at present.) The most significant January 3 ennead transit to Trump's natal chart is transiting mean Rahu in the degree of his natal Uranus, also the MC degree of the ennead. Here are the partile inaugural aspects to Trump's January 3 ennead:

24Tau05 ennead MC
24 Tau 39 ennead Mean Rahu
24 Aqu 29 ennead Neptune
24 Cap 49 Mercury transit inauguration

12 Ari 43 ennead Uranus
12 Ari 37 Mars transit inauguration

20 Leo 39 ennead Moon (change, natal 12th lord)
20 Ari 07 ascendant inauguration

09 Cap 27 ennead Jupiter
09 Cap 53 Saturn transit inauguration

04 Ari 41 ennead Mars
05 Ari 00 Moon transit inauguration

So the transit of Mercury on inauguration day sealed the Rahu transit of Trump's natal Uranus. I don't know if any astrologer predicted the extreme actions Trump would take in his attempt to hang on to the presidency. The three other transits on January 20 involve the malefics, Mars and Saturn. If I had thought to check inaugural transits to Trump's ennead, it would have been an easy guess that he would not be re-elected. (I didn't predict a winner for this election.)