fidibus

thanks for your reply! i only heard about dobereiner recently from lunlumo as it happens... perhaps his work is more popular in germany, but i had never heard of it before... i liked your example on the possible occupation of the women... i don't do astrology for a living either.. it is an ongoing hobby and i do something very similar to you - make connections between events and charts...

going back to the end time 6pm of the election time, i think the voting is over at this time which is why it is used as a barometer of the possible result of all the votes.. i think it is a better fit then waiting for the public announcement, but it is okay for those interested in astrology to come to their own conclusions on this..

i am not sure what you mean by degrees belonging to planets - " the moon is at 24.5 degrees Sagittarius. Both are Uranus Neptune degrees. " what is meant by this?? - they are both uranus/neptune degrees?? that mystifies me.. thanks!

lunlumo

regarding trump, nukes sent to germany and on german soil and etc, can i ask you a question?? was it okay for nuclear weapons to be on cuban soil in 1962, so close to the usa?? why would it be any different here?? ukraine is not a part of nato, so how much do nato countries want to follow the leadership of the usa here in wanting to have a hot war with russia?? as i said before, this is a nato-russia conflict with ukraine the useful proxy to allow for this.. until leadership within europe start asking questions on the leadership it follows, i don't think it matters who wins in the usa election..

i happened to do a chart for the german arms manufacturer - rheinmetall... it a noon day chart that i have used.. as it turns out the corporation was founded exactly a week before the birth of adolf hitler.. april 13, 1889 - dusseldorf.. see the tropical day chart below..



perhaps it is a fitting chart given the squares of saturn to mars-venus in the fixed signs..

"In October 2023, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal presented Chancellor Scholz with the certificate of registration of the joint venture Rheinmetall Ukrainien Defence Industry LLC, based in Kyiv, which began operations in the same month. It was announced in December 2023 that Rheinmetall planned to produce the Lynx Infantry Fighting Vehicle and the TPz Fuchs Armored Personnel Carrier in Ukraine. Rheinmetall intends to have the first units come off the production line sometime in 2024.[3]" from - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinmetall

i realize business is good for rheinmetall and more people are being employed, year on year ( see link for statistics on this)... i would be curious if this is something that will continue to grow to the people of germanys satisfaction?? i don't think this is about trump or harris getting in power, but about where germany would like to see itself growing into the future...

https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/de/Grup ... lspunkte[4]

thanks fidibus,

i was able to read the page in english and it led me to a few other pages which i could read in english as well to get more insight into dobereiners thinking... the assigning of degrees to planets reminds me of the sabian symbols, although different.. it is kind of like some mediumistic approach to viewing the tropical zodiac... one of its popular adherents - Christine Keidel-Joura - appears to also work with the i-ching... it seems to get more and more removed from mainstream astrology which is fine, but it becomes more difficult to gauge... in other words - i am having to take someone's word for symbolism i have no clue over the basis for any of it... for example - my natal sun at 9 aries and change is under the influence of pluto-uranus - deep imagination, but also self doubt - going on memory here of what i read off the page... that is much like the i-ching as i see it... it is very disconnected from the astrology i know..

now if you were to make a comment on the 1871 german empire chart using dobereiners system of astrology, what would insights might you be able to share?? thanks..

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james_m wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:08 pm thanks fidibus,

now if you were to make a comment on the 1871 german empire chart using dobereiners system of astrology, what would insights might you be able to share?? thanks..

I am not sure if we should and can use this chart.

thanks fidibus

i am confused by your 738am post.. perhaps something is lost in the translation to english??

as for your 2nd 941am post, what chart would you prefer to use for germany?? thanks...

james_m wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:12 pm thanks fidibus

i am confused by your 738am post.. perhaps something is lost in the translation to english??

Whar is confusing about that?
How do you understand my post.

fidibus

i take it you are using this example to show the merits of dobereiners approach?? regardless whether this is true or not - it remains confusing.. and yes - start a different thread topic if you want to continue in this direction as it is not connected to the german empire 1871... thanks

james_m wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:55 pm fidibus

i take it you are using this example to show the merits of dobereiners approach?? regardless whether this is true or not - it remains confusing.. and yes - start a different thread topic if you want to continue in this direction as it is not connected to the german empire 1871... thanks

Fidibus wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:45 am The German Empire was formally created on January 1st, 1871, and was partly formed by the "coronation" of Wilhelm I on January 18th, 1871 and the decision on national territory on February 26th, 1871 in Versailles. Astrologically, February 26, 1871 is the founding of the empire. This also fits in that Neptune was exactly where Uranus was on the day the next Reich was founded in January 1933.

thanks fidibus

the chart of january 18, 1871 - 1pm versailles, france is mentioned in nicolas campions book of world horoscopes 2004 edition on page 135.. mars has moved to 5 libra tropical - close to the ascendant in the jan 1 1871 chart with 7 libra rising tropical zodiac..also a coincidence - the moon at 21 sag, which is seen earlier in this thread regarding the sept 28th closing of polls at 6pm, is very close to the location of the moon in the jan 18th chart.. there is no mention of a chart for feb 26th in his book.. neither is there any mention of feb 26th on the wkipedia page for the german empire found here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Empire

campion mentions relocating the chart from versailles france to berlin, germany.. here is the chart in campions book -



here is the chart relocated to berlin again in tropical zodiac.. it might be slightly off, but it is very close..

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