Hi Tom. I was out for some time so, just now I'm trying little bit to understand
of what you post says.
I like idea of Mercury rules of day earth triplicity, and at the same time I?m upset because of: ?Morin didn?t use the terms and faces (he called them ?Arab fantasies?)?.
Like in my case, Mercury in Taurus 26, combusted, retrograde, in 8th, conjuncts Algol, on t-squares to both malefics?can?t be worsen. But it?s in Saturn?s term and face, so, getting strength from Saturn in Aquarius (also strong Venus rules Taurus). Otherwise, how I would have higher education and use second language professionally?
Now, according to Morin, Mercury just in own triplicity. That?s adding some ?points? to it?s dignity, but square to Saturn starts acting badly, because no receptions with it.
Another question. Does planet in house have stronger influence over house than it?s almuten if it?s in the next sign, other than houses cusp?

Like in my case, Mercury in Taurus 26, combusted, retrograde, in 8th, conjuncts Algol, on t-squares to both malefics?can?t be worsen

Hi Yuriy,

I hope Mercury doesn't rule your first house

Now, according to Morin, Mercury just in own triplicity. That?s adding some ?points? to it?s dignity, but square to Saturn starts acting badly, because no receptions with it.

I don't have your chart, but if Saturn is in domicile and not otherwise afflicted, this isn't going to hurt Mercury as badly as it would if it were in say, Leo. If I understand you correctly Mars is in Leo and Saturn is in Aquarius. Mercury assumes the status of the planets with whom he is keeping company, and he is keeping company with the malefics, so he is an accidental malefic. But he is keeping company with a strong positive Saturn and Mars isn't in the worst position* being in a hot dry sign. So whatever it is that Mercuy promises, it will come but with difficulties and imperfections. In short your Mercury probably looks a lot worse than it is. If Mercury is not angular, the significance of Algol is a bit diminished as well. If it is close to the cusp of an angle, be careful.

Does planet in house has stronger influence over house than it?s almuten if it?s in the next sign, other than houses cusp?

Morin says that a planet in a house has more influence over the affairs of the house than the ruler does unless the ruler is in the house in question. So Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 5th is in charge of 5th house affairs regardless of what other planets are there. But if Jupiter is in Sagittarius in the 4th and the 5th cusp has Sagittarius on it, and, say Mars is in the 5th, then Mars' would have the most influence.

Morin probably didn't use almutens because he shortened the list of essential dignities by nearly half, but if he did, the principle would be the same. The planet in the house has more influence than the ruler of the house and more than the almuten.

Keep in mind this is Morin's idea. There may be others who disagree. I'm sticking with him because that is the way we started and I want to be consistent.

Tom

*Contrast your Mercury with Venus, the ASC ruler of Adolph Hitler's chart. That Venus in Taurus was conjunct Mars in Taurus (detriment) and square Saturn in Leo (detriment). Venus was retrograde, too. Now that is far more of a problem than you have.

Tom wrote:Gabe,

Your suggestion makes some sense, but keep this in mind: almuten is determined by essential dignity. Angularity is an accidental dignity.

Tom

True. In the case of a tie, both planets will provide the form of the house in question, as basically all the rulers of a degree, to one degree or another; but the more angular one is going to provide more of the matter of the house, due to its greater power to act. All other things considered, of course.

I tried to rectify the chart of today?s world known architect from California, Frank Gehry.
I?m interested in that because of my profession is an architect, and because he has Mars-Saturn opposition in his chart too.
I didn?t have much of private event?s dates from his biography (like marriage, child born, etc.) for rectification. Though, he had emigrated from Canada at the age 17, was graduated in the US, had numerous awards. Using those dates I made rectification with Kepler6 and, here is his data:

Frank Gehry
February 28, 1929, 1:20 PM
Toronto, Canada
AC 16 Cancer
Regarding his chart (I don?t mention Pluto on AC, because it?s traditions forum and, may be my rectification is wrong) it?s just amazing of how planet?s essential dignities (or debilities) are insignificant in his obvious success in profession. And I don?t see much of accidental dignities (again, may be wrong chart). But, from my point of view, good aspect between luminaries, and Jupiter, and grand trines are obviouse.

Until right now I'd never heard of Frank Gehry, but I am always interested in charts of successful people that have little essential dignity. This qualifies.

Gehry's ASC ruler, the Moon, is in Scorpio (Fall), but it is also conjunct the fixed star Alpheca. Robson says:

Public honor and dignity, suffers through law, partners, and neighbors, trouble through underhanded dealings of enemies, but eventual triumph over them, bad for love affairs, some faithful friends, greatly esteemed by Venus and Mercury people.

Mars is conjunct Betelguese:

Cautious and reserved, good leader and organizer, honor and preferment in martial matters.

The ASC is conjunct Canopus:

It gives piety conservatism, a wide and comprehensive knowledge, voyages, and educational work, and changes evil to good.

This is a simplistic way to read a chart, but it is a start. I wonder how many of these things fit, and if any of them can be seen elsewhere in the chart?

A word about Pluto and his friends. I have no problem discussing the influence of the outer planets in any chart. It is the use of the outer planets as sign rulers that is inappropriate in the traditional forum. In the past I've used them but more like fixed stars. For the moment, I've taken them off my computer display, but may put them back on someday.

If you think an accepted symbolism for Pluto is appropriate to the chart under discussion, feel free to use it, but Mars rules Scorpio.

Thanks.

Tom

We know there are some signs with no ruler by exaltation.
What to do with them in scoring?

Hi, Tom.
The Pluto on AC in Frank Gehry?s chart says pretty clear about his status as literally ?the world?s number one architect?. His power to persuade many cities authority, all around the world, to build his ?strange objects? is obvious. Here is one of his work
http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings ... ilbao.html

Tom wrote:Gehry's ASC ruler, the Moon, is in Scorpio (Fall), but it is also conjunct the fixed star Alpheca. Robson says:

Public honor and dignity, suffers through law, partners, and neighbors, trouble through underhanded dealings of enemies, but eventual triumph over them, bad for love affairs, some faithful friends, greatly esteemed by Venus and Mercury people.

Mars is conjunct Betelguese:

Cautious and reserved, good leader and organizer, honor and preferment in martial matters.

The ASC is conjunct Canopus:

It gives piety conservatism, a wide and comprehensive knowledge, voyages, and educational work, and changes evil to good.

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Many of these star?s interpretations could be applied to Frank Gehry?s life and profession. He is a great innovative architect and academics professor.
Regarding some possible tension with law, his buildings are bizarre and very complex with maintaining them. And they are not so energy efficient, which can cause some energy overuse. So, in time some problems may come.
I?m not clear about myself. Having Arcturus-Spica right on my AC, I?m still being not rich and not famous . Though, the old text about Arcturus describe pretty much my profession:? Manilius writes "they will be kings under kings and ministers of state, and be charged with the guardianship of the people, custodianship of great houses and treasures, who confine their business to the care of another's home so that the wealth of monarchs and temple finances will be in their keeping".

I?m not clear about myself. Having Arcturus-Spica right on my AC,

Sadly more is required. I have Regulus on my ASC and to date, I'm king of nothing.

I've worked with architects on projects (but mostly engineers), and I know how the law always has to be kept in mind from the design stage to completion. I also know that temperamental artistic types can view the law as a nuisance and obstacle to their artistic endeavors, so run -ins with the law would be natural for a man who designs "bizzare" buildings.

Tom