Here are a couple recent forum examples of Jupiter as possible bad boy. They don't prove anything and don't suffice to pin the blame completely on Jupiter. They're merely the sort of thing to keep in mind in case you come across other examples. They both involve Jupiter opposed the ASC, or conjunct the DESC ? your preference.

On May 9th, '09 geodorn wrote in another thread:

I dislocated my shoulder this morning . . . . maybe I should have checked the transits . . . Moon trine moon . . . plus separating opposition Jup to Asc. And not a single other transit in the sky except some really slow outer planets.

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In Steven's accident example transiting Jupiter was also opposed the natal ASC. That one involved a natal Mars-ASC conjunction. Jupiter had made it's 2nd opposition hit to both in September and then turned direct in November, about 3 weeks after the late October accident, moving on to the 3rd hit in January.

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I was let go from my job when Jupiter was exactly opposite my Sun and Venus in my sixth house. Even though it was an opposition, I really thought that it wouldn't be so devastating but I was wrong.

Debbie Clarke wrote:I was let go from my job when Jupiter was exactly opposite my Sun and Venus in my sixth house. Even though it was an opposition, I really thought that it wouldn't be so devastating but I was wrong.

Many years ago, getting fired from my job in spectacular fashion was what propelled me into my true career as a writer. I'd been writing for years but getting nowhere when I tried to publish because I was copying other people's writing.

After the firing, I was so mad I scribbled a furious manuscript warning people about the idiots in the business I was in and ended up a year or so later with a modest niche bestseller that was the beginning of a 24 year career as a writer. I'm still publishing with even brighter prospects now.

Had the job gone well, I'd have never made that change since I was making very good money.

So it is probably too soon to know if your firing might set the stage for your eventual and much desired good fortune.

As Cornelia's experience demonstrates, many times Jupiter brings the proverbial "blessing in disguise." Getting fired from the limiting job is a classic Jupiter maneuver. Jupiter's agenda is room to grow and if you don't have it, look out for those Jupiter transits.

Zeus was a capricious and often dangerous god.

Tara

I do agree with what you are both saying but what is the opportunity? Now I am going through Pluto transit so so. Years ago I became homeless with my children. Because of that I ended up in a Women's Research project on homeless and had many opportunities because of it. I know God has something in mind for me but I don't know what.

Debbie Clarke wrote:I do agree with what you are both saying but what is the opportunity? Now I am going through Pluto transit so so. Years ago I became homeless with my children. Because of that I ended up in a Women's Research project on homeless and had many opportunities because of it. I know God has something in mind for me but I don't know what.

That's the Pluto part. If you already knew what, you wouldn't need to go through the destruction of existing [thought] structures it brings.

We grow when forced and there is no way around this. The main thing is that you know you are dealing with a Pluto transit, so you know things will be tough and you ARE being forced to let go of things that have outlived their usefulness. But Pluto transits take time to unfold. The faith helps you get through them, but there's no intellectual way around the experience to the outcome.

I don't think we can always assume that tragedies have a positive side to them - or if we do, it's something outside the realm of astrology. I can see a Jupiter (assuming it's well-placed in your chart) disappointment having a silver-lining feel to it. But if it's not well-dignified, it could bring just plain bad stuff, too.

Olivia said,

I don't think we can always assume that tragedies have a positive side to them - or if we do, it's something outside the realm of astrology. I can see a Jupiter (assuming it's well-placed in your chart) disappointment having a silver-lining feel to it. But if it's not well-dignified, it could bring just plain bad stuff, too.

Absolutely agree. The silver lining doesn't always become apparent even after time elapses. But it does happen.

For a Jupiter transit to become a major dust up or inflation, it generally has to station on, or at least triple transit, something major in your chart. Otherwise Jupiter seems to be a pretty nebulous influence as befits the King of the Gods who can hardly be expected to concern himself with the ups and downs of mere mortals.

Tara

Horacek/Trojan - I had a look for that booklet you mentioned and it's not in print... A shame but not unexpected!

Keren

I've spent some time thinking about this thread and pondering its relevance (or lack thereof) in my own chart...but I'm beginning to think that it *does* work, at least in part, or in relation to other points in the chart.

I have a 9th house Jupiter at 0 Scorpio, trine 1st house Mars at 2 Pisces. They receive one another by domicile and triplicity. Mars is also in wide sextile to my Sun at 26 Sag (11th house). Jupiter is also afflicted by an opposition to an out-of-sign Moon/Saturn conjunction in the 3rd house (at 28 Aries/2 Taurus respectively) . ASC is 9 Aquarius.

Transiting Jupiter is now at roughly 26 Aquarius along with Neptune and Chiron, all plonked in my 1st. I had hoped that Jupiter transiting my 1st house (and sextiling my Sun and Moon) would bring all sorts of 'fortune' to me; you know, the typical stuff: a pay raise, win the Euromillions, etc. (Jupiter is ruler of my 2nd house).

Instead, it has brought about a very deep unrest; I don't want to call it a mental illness, but I suppose it could be diagnosed that way - severe, fluctuating depression, a questioning of internal values, a desire to throw in the towel and start over somewhere else. I've had two weeks signed off by the doctor, and am going back today to ask for more. I am suffering terrible 'fuzzy-head' headaches, palpitations, general malaise. I may have to quit my job. My marriage is turbulent, to say the least.

Benefits? I suppose there are some, hidden underneath the layers of sturm und drang. I am having to examine what is *really* important to me, and will eventually have to take some steps to get me closer to the life I 'should' be living, rather than the one I have currently constructed.

Transiting Jupiter hasn't quite reached an exact conjunction with my natal Mars/Jupiter aspect...but if the current internal climate is anything to go by, I expect the next several months will continue to be quite difficult - and interesting. Being that I have only just come out from under an arduous tr Pluto/natal Sun conjunction, I sometimes get the feeling that these difficult transits never really end...they just hand over the baton to a new transit.

GH:)

I feel your pain. It's currently plonked on my Mars. Natally I have Jupiter rx in 10 conjunct Neptune, NN, and Spica (that's not me!), but in partile sexile to Saturn, partile trine to Mars/Chiron conjunction, and a couple of degrees near exact opposition to Sun/Mercury/SN.

With Sag rising.

All of which spells nasty. Major health and income problems have been happening here of late.

I don't generally use outer planets, but when it rains it pours.

OTOH, Saturn is sitting smack opposite Venus by transit, but since they don't get up to any bad together natally, I don't think that's it. And Jupter + disaster seem to go together for me. I've got Jupiter in Aquarius in 12 ruling my SR ascendant in Pisces this year, too, with Moon + Fomalhaut conjunct the ASC, and a Venus/Mars/Scheat conjunction in the 1st. I hate living in interesting times.

Gunhilde wrote:I've spent some time thinking about this thread and pondering its relevance (or lack thereof) in my own chart...but I'm beginning to think that it *does* work, at least in part, or in relation to other points in the chart.

I have a 9th house Jupiter at 0 Scorpio, trine 1st house Mars at 2 Pisces. They receive one another by domicile and triplicity. Mars is also in wide sextile to my Sun at 26 Sag (11th house). Jupiter is also afflicted by an opposition to an out-of-sign Moon/Saturn conjunction in the 3rd house (at 28 Aries/2 Taurus respectively) . ASC is 9 Aquarius.

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GH:)

Hi GH,

Sorry to read of your troubles. You will come through.
Astrologically, you didn't mention Uranus at all !! . It is at Pisces 26degree.
Saturn too is heading to a square.Jupiter is probably cushioning you somewhat.
Fortitude is the need of the hour.

best wishes

PD