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yuzuru wrote: Hi,
first of all, I am not taking sides, as I am not particularly invested in this discussion: but I was wondering in the example above, why are you assuming that this particular effect would be the effect of moon over mars. It seems more logical to assume that it would be the effect of mars over moon. I would like to read your reasoning.

Best regards
I didn't mean Moon brings negative effect over Mars. I meant that Moon-Mars square will have effects in longevity if Mars is alchohoden. Yet, I think Moon can also weaken Martian energy through a harsh aspect as well as Mars can damage Moon. I agree that Mars damages benefic energies more with hard aspects.