james_m wrote:i think brexit is the cause for much of the angst here... where does theresa may stand on brexit? is she trying to stale the process and then offer a panic vote to try to change things? that is a bit how it looks..

Interesting comment though James that she is trying to stale the process to get another vote in favour of the EU. The process certainly feels stale to me. I instinctively felt that Theresa May had more integrity than to do that, but could be wrong.

thanks fleur,

i was reminded that there was a snap election in 2017, so one really ought to work with the chart that came after her election win in 2017 which i have included below.. this chart has mars at 3 cancer in the 10th being squared by saturn - replaces the 3 libra midheaven in the other chart... meanwhile - all the important points of the chart - sun, moon and ascendant - continue to be plagued by the transit of neptune.. again - brexit looms large and could be taken to represent the angst that it or neptune casts over britian at this point in time..

I totally agree James that a good proven Chart is very helpful.

But equally tying down The May Government's chart is problematic as you illustrated. She became PM back in 2016, and actually remained such thru the Snap Election she called.

So how do we weave in any strengths or weakenesses the second General Election delivered to her ?

For me this is similar to when PLCs relist, or merge. I might have good original charts, but the PLC may change completely due to a merger.

I think in Theresa's case the original 2016 is the basis. That is when she became PM.


I think we need to dig out Boris Johnson's and I think there was a thread on it back in 2016.

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9172

I think the Ball is in his Court in terms of how things will play out.

I think Theresa May will have know that Boris would have jumped ship after she tried to corral him.

She wouldn't have done that unless she felt she was in a strongish position.

I think she is cf his position.

H

PS People should watch to see if the strongly -VE Lunar Eclipse on the 27th July around 4° Aguarius lands on anything or anybody to do with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb-IJngnLsM

Maybe we should be looking at Jacob Rees Mogg's chart. He would make a great prime minister.

Jacob Rees Mogg has Saturn just under 3 degrees Taurus, so transiting Uranus is currently conjunct it within one degree, and will be stationary in early August. This is a powerful transit as Uranus is 45 degrees to Neptune and aspecting the Moons Nodes. Saturn is about being in authority.

I can't post his chart at the moment. 24th May 1969 London, noon chart as no time of birth known.

Fleur wrote:Theresa May was born on October 1st 1956 in Eastbourne. No time of birth known http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Theresa_May


She looks almost certain to be the next prime minister, to replace David Cameron.

Her Mars is 13 degrees Pisces 41 minutes, which gives an antiscion of 16 degrees Libra 19 minutes. This point is currently being transited by Pluto, Neptune, Saturn etc. It does seem to be about winning a contest, but is Mars also implicated in diabetes, and could ill health become a factor in her becoming prime minister? For the last couple of years Uranus in 17 degrees Aries transited this point in her chart.
Simulation de rachat de crédit
In his "Encyclopaedia of Psychological Astrology", Charles Carter writes, under the heading Diabetes, "So far as my examples go, there is no disease which shows the value of specific areas beter tha this, the particular region in diabetes being about 17 degrees Cancer Capricorn. In one case the planets fall in 17 degrees Aries. Planets in Aries Libra are common." He shows the chart of Primo de Rivera, who had diabetes, whose Sun is 18 degrees Capricorn and Neptune 17 degrees Aries.

Glad to know you Theresa

Nataniel06 wrote:

Fleur wrote:Theresa May was born on October 1st 1956 in Eastbourne. No time of birth known http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Theresa_May


She looks almost certain to be the next prime minister, to replace David Cameron.

Her Mars is 13 degrees Pisces 41 minutes, which gives an antiscion of 16 degrees Libra 19 minutes. This point is currently being transited by Pluto, Neptune, Saturn etc. It does seem to be about winning a contest, but is Mars also implicated in diabetes, and could ill health become a factor in her becoming prime minister? For the last couple of years Uranus in 17 degrees Aries transited this point in her chart.
Simulation de rachat de crédit
In his "Encyclopaedia of Psychological Astrology", Charles Carter writes, under the heading Diabetes, "So far as my examples go, there is no disease which shows the value of specific areas beter tha this, the particular region in diabetes being about 17 degrees Cancer Capricorn. In one case the planets fall in 17 degrees Aries. Planets in Aries Libra are common." He shows the chart of Primo de Rivera, who had diabetes, whose Sun is 18 degrees Capricorn and Neptune 17 degrees Aries.

Glad to know you Theresa

It`s a very good book by Carter.Whenever I mention it people seem to ignore it,maybe due to the title

So here "We" are Wednesday the 14th Nov 2018 and the News is full of Theresa May's BREXIT Proposal.

It doesn't sound good so I thought I'd reactivate this Thread.

My Top Down Rolling Analysis shows Venus SDs now but then falling under the Node and r.Uranus all the way till the 28th-30th Nov.

Mercury turns retro at the Weekend but into the path of Jupiter.

There is talk of a Sunday the 25th Nov EU Summit to discuss her work.

The Sun, Jupiter and r.Mercury cross over on the following day conjunction or into the next day, and Mars is forming a square to them.

So things turning -VE pretty well as soon as Mars completes his sextile to r.Uranus tomorrow.

Mars also falls into Pisces late tomorrow night.

r.Mercury applying to Jupiter in Sagittarius is the interesting one.

H

Pity we dont have a timed chart for May. Probably a good time for also studying the UK and Conservative party charts to see if we are in for the upheaval of a leadership election and a new PM. It only takes 48 Conservative MPs to initiate a leadership election in the 1922 Committee.

Mark

Theresa May's Mars is 13 degrees Pisces 41 minutes, so transiting Mercury will be powerfully affecting it, stationing in square to it a few hours ago.

Mercury retrograde might even suggest she goes back to the drawing board and makes changes to pacify people, Jacob Rees Mogg and the other Brexiteers. She can be very Libran like that and is aware of everyone's feelings, which she does take into account. Margaret Thatcher she isn't (who I know was also Libra Sun, but with Saturn rising in Scorpio).

Flo,

Maybe you already mentioned it but t.Neptune is SD right on top of her n.Mars. 13°42'.

All the way till the 25th Nov when it begins to ease, but slowly slowly.

She's been invoking the Greater Good.

What's she on ?

|EDIT - t.Mars arrives on the scene in early Dec too, exact to t.Neptune around 6th-8th Dec, so that must "hit" her n.Mars too.

Wowh !! How does that play out ? Afflicted for sure.

t.Jupiter arrives on square in early Jan.]

H

I think Theresa May will gather the Brexiteers around a negotiating table and make some changes that they want. She is probably working on this day and night.

I think she will be ok in the end.

Maybe Mark is right that she is a typical Moon in Virgo, and her Moon is actually about 1.5 degrees Virgo. If so, then transiting IsisTranspluto is exactly conjunct her Moon.


Watch for transiting Jupiter in 13 degrees Sagittarius in January squaring her Mars, I think that will time her winning this battle.

Hello everyone. I’d like to make a very strong case for a birth time of 1:50 am for Theresa May on 1 October 1956 [ASC=12-Leo-14].

Click here for the rectified chart: https://imgur.com/a/736C9Cf

My argument is as follows:

1) Elected Conservative leader on (11 July 2016) under the most sudden of circumstances – shocking Brexit referendum vote to Leave, immediately followed by the resignation of Prime Minister David Cameron. What if we put Tr. Uranus on her MC (24-Aries-19.) when this happened reflecting her lightning-quick career elevation.

2) When her father died tragically in a car crash (12 Oct 1981) Tr. Pluto was at 24-Lib-04…EXACTLY on the IC and Secondary Progressed Moon was EXACTLY square the MC-IC.

3) Her mother died a few months later (early 1982) after a battle with MS with Tr. Pluto still on the IC.

4) She was appointed the first female Chairman of the Conservative Party in July 2002 with Tr. Jupiter at 24-Cancer, square MC.

5) May, as Home Secretary, introduces new restrictions intended to reduce the number of non-European Economic Area family migrants (11 June 2012). Later in the month (20 June 2012) she is found guilty of contempt of court in a deportation case. The judge accused her of “unacceptable and regrettable behaviour???. During this time, Tr. Saturn is retrograding over her IC at 23-Libra.

6) Her career elevation as Home Secretary and Prime Minister up to this day occurs with Tr. Saturn in the 2nd quadrant (houses 4,5,6) as you would expect with someone “on the rise???.

7) Forbes magazine publishes a list of “The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women??? on (20 Sept. 2017) and May comes in 2nd place, just behind Angela Merkel. Tr. Jupiter is on the IC.

8 - Currently (Nov. 2018) and becoming exact (25 Jan 2019) we have Tr. Uranus making a semi-square aspect to the ruler of the MC (Mars in 8th). Does this not describe the current uncertainty around her leadership; the attacks upon it?

Natally:

1) Neptune on IC, ruling 9th…grew up in the Church with father a clergyman.

2) Very close Moon-Venus conjunction with Venus ruling 4th…always a sign of love of food, wine, cooking. She owns 100 cookery books. Her husband has said that she "is a very good cook".

3) Moon-Venus-Pluto stellium square Saturn in 4 with Pluto co-ruling the 4th…a law-and-order conservative who was Home Secretary. Also, unable to have children.

4) Mars, ruler of the MC, in 8 opposing Jupiter in 2…entire career before elective politics was in money and finance, first with the Bank of England.

5) Rulers of the ASC and DSC, respectively, are sextile to each other, and aspect Chiron…a very good, healing marriage. Her husband is described as her “rock???.

Thank-you
Dean B. - Toronto, Canada