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37 by WooWoo
Just to remind Folks that we get a reactivation of the destructive 8th Mar Total Eclipse 2016.

Also using the 1927 UK Chart that falls on the UK's natal but intercepted Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd.

We should look back at the 8th March 2016 or the days running up to see what happened in the UK.

I'm NOT going to pretend I know what it means but you'd feel that something very joyous might happen, or as it is intercepted, might try to happen.

You then need to think where that power might be felt.

I think the interception is very problematic as whatever wishes to be expressed may struggle.

Certainly points to serious disharmony in the UK's 3rd House.

H

38 by Phoenix9061210
I don't mean to be too direct here but why do people not just state what they think will happen?

Where are your Leo, Aries or Sagittarius aspects? What does it matter if you're wrong on this completely anonymous forum?

My previous estimate of Conservatives = +75 seats is very unlikely. Because there are only 75 swing seats and some of those will be currently held by the Cons... But am I going to die in a pool if ink black blood because I am wrong... No I'm not.

Secondly... Why is the 1927 England chart relevant? Astro.com has a 1801 one. I personally would think the current political cycles are shown by some period in 1952 after the second world war when the left really started moving and created the NHS etc. Plus taxation really got off the ground at this period.

Sun is over Corbyns Uranus in Gemini! Funny stuff! What do you make of that?

39 by Phoenix9061210
I also want to add one small non astrological factor here. When I searched for Mays chart to see if I could include anything interesting to the last post it came up "Theresa May human rights"

Theresa May is saying she's going to "rip up" the human rights act... Would that be the European Court of Human Rights that her party has pledged to stay part of until 2025?

I will not include any more about electoral strategy because it is not what this forum is about but I genuinely think she might be trying to throw this election.

40 by Malcolm Ramsay
amelia wrote:So no clear conclusion jumps out.
Well, that's certainly consistent with a hung parliament, which is what I'm expecting/hoping for. I suspect Theresa May will hang on as Prime Minister for a while, but I'll guess not much past the end of July when Neptune crosses back over her natal Mars (where it was when she called the election) just a few days after Sun/Mars conjoin her natal Uranus.

I'm interested in your comments about a possible constitutional crisis where the monarchy has to interfere. I wonder what you're reading that from?

There are one or two fairly obvious triggers for a constitutional crisis (Scotland voting for independence perhaps, or maybe a hung parliament being unable to provide functioning government) but there's also a less obvious possibility which might come through the constitutional validity of the Brexit decision being questioned (perhaps at the end of next week, when Neptune turns retrograde).

As things stand, politically, I don't really see any likelihood of the monarchy interfering. But a constitutional crisis could open the way for various reforms, including perhaps the constitutional status of the monarchy. One of the arguments I've been making, for several years, is that the monarch's lack of a democratic mandate creates a void at the heart of government and I've advocated reforms which would provide one (albeit a passive one) so that she or he could properly oversee the whole system. I wonder if the astrological indications you're seeing might be consistent with a change like that?

41 by WooWoo
Hi Pheonix,

Yeh I am with you in terms of now it is time to make some Judgement Calls.

My Rolling Mundane Analysis tends more to give the back ground and the Eclipse Reactivation does change things big times.

We did get a big change in the UK in 1922 I think when the Irish Free State escaped us. So any good natal chart of the UK would have to be after that.

I'd say it is significant that the Eclipse falls close to the UK's natal Jupiter sitting in intercepted Pisces. A look back to 8th Mar 2016 did bring up that as a Budget Day so that is a significant day each year.

Will the reactivation blow the whole thing wide open ? It'd be nice to think so.

Certainly things should be deteriorating now.

Sorry I can't make a call. Perhaps it is too personal or emotive for me. I didn't see the Tory win in 2015 NOR the Leave Win in 2016. NOR Trump"s win. Macron"s win Yes.

Er? Um?

Where's Mark when you need him?

H

42 by Phoenix9061210
Rocko wrote:Hi Pheonix,

Yeh I am with you in terms of now it is time to make some Judgement Calls.

...

Sorry I can't make a call. Perhaps it is too personal or emotive for me. I didn't see the Tory win in 2015 NOR the Leave Win in 2016. NOR Trump"s win. Macron"s win Yes.

Er? Um?

Where's Mark when you need him?

H
Well, thanks for the response. Strange, I though Leave and Trump were pretty obvious, I had a friend i advised on these and he gained a lot of money on them both (But I don't gamble).

I still think, and it has basically been proven (i.e. expenses scandal), that the 2015 election was rigged.

There is a strange pattern of lightning strikes showing things in the future. Such as when lightning hit the top of the One world Trade Centre and the stock market topped a month later and did not come back up for another year. When Lightning struck the top of the Vatican on the last Pope's resignation and many more. There was recently one in Kent. I.e. Nigel Farage's constituency.
Malcolm Ramsay wrote:
amelia wrote:So no clear conclusion jumps out.
Well, that's certainly consistent with a hung parliament, which is what I'm expecting/hoping for. I suspect Theresa May will hang on as Prime Minister for a while, but I'll guess not much past the end of July when Neptune crosses back over her natal Mars (where it was when she called the election) just a few days after Sun/Mars conjoin her natal Uranus.

There are one or two fairly obvious triggers for a constitutional crisis (Scotland voting for independence perhaps, or maybe a hung parliament being unable to provide functioning government) but there's also a less obvious possibility which might come through the constitutional validity of the Brexit decision being questioned (perhaps at the end of next week, when Neptune turns retrograde).
So it's nice we get at least one prediction. Hung Parliament
:D

I don't know why Neptune would effect the Brexit decision personally because Brexit seems to have been pushed by Uranus in my understanding. Unless of course Neptune was revealing a hidden tendency that was already there. Neptune is hardly energetic like Mars, Uranus, Pluto, Jupiter etc. At least in my understanding.

Neptune changes are more likely to effect the new age and conspiracy community.

44 by amandaW
I'm interested in your comments about a possible constitutional crisis where the monarchy has to interfere. I wonder what you're reading that from?
It was a bit of flippant remark I'm afraid; inspired by a recent TV drama that I didn't even watch myself.

Astrologically, it was only based on the fact that I see royal matters being to the fore in the period 2019-20. I don't really think there would be a parliamentary constitutional crisis, although when I wrote it, it was Brexit in 2019 that I was thinking about as I do think it will be difficult to achieve something satisfactory in the timescale.

In reality think the royal issue will be a change of royal leadership.
"The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper" Eden Phillpotts

Corbyn - 2016 Solar Return

45 by astralwanderer
Hi there - readers may be interested in Jeremy Corbyn's solar return for 2017. This is cast for the 20:27 rectification I have been using, and for his birthplace of Cheltenham. House system is Porphyry.
Image
Does this look like the chart of an election victor?

Fortune rising in the tenth sign from Jupiter, which is on the cusp of the fifth. Moon separates from Sun and approaches trine Jupiter. Mercury is an important planet in this horoscope, albeit with little dignity except by term. Saturn has the greatest dignity. Venus is the almuten of the tenth - success and status - but is in essentially poor shape being in detriment and perigrine.
"...the motions that are akin to the divine in us are the thoughts and revolutions of the universe."

Plato, Timaeus, 90.

46 by WooWoo
Don't all good Astrologer need to talk with forked tongues ?

Corby can be A Winner but NOT necessarily The Winner.

If he kept May to say less than a 50 seat majority he could claim to have done incredible well.

I think that'd be around 375 for the Tories then.

I think the Results will take time to understand as I hear traditional Labour seats may do very badly (aka "Nuclear Winter") but he may steal some Tory seats.

H

47 by fleur
I read somewhere that Labour are taking seats off the Libdems. There could be all kinds of semi-hidden changes going on. The exit polls are confusing, only tomorrow morning will tell....

48 by Mark
So with the dust settling it seems clear the UK General election has produced a hung parliament making the Conservatives the largest party but lacking the majority of seats in the UK parliament. Theresa May's continued leadership is now in question. All eyes now turn to the Northern Irish Democratic Unionist party who seem the likely king makers if the Conservatives are to continue to govern. Its very ironic that Theresa May attacked the Labour party stating they could only form a government which would be a 'coalition of chaos' with the Liberal Democrats or SNP. Now it seems Conservative party hopes are pinned on cobbling together some kind of ''supply and confidence agreement'' with the DUP. What price will the DUP extract from the Conservatives? They are already hinting at a preferential special treatment for Northern Ireland in the Brexit negotiations..... Meanwhile Theresa May seems badly wounded by this result. If the purpose of this election was to get a public mandate for her hard brexit policy her gamble has clearly failed. As Theresa May attempted to run a Presidential style campaign based on her personality and developed her manifesto with a tight group of advisers its hard to not see this setback as a personal rejection for May. The Conservative MP Anna Soubry has already described the election as a 'disastrous result' for the party and suggested Theresa May ''needs to consider her position''. That is political code for resignation.

Now that Neptune on the opening of poll chart MC makes perfect sense. Ah the benefit of hindsight!

Mark
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