Oh, nice. Youtube's automatic translator always confuses Navalny with "Naval Knee".

james_m wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:03 pm i have some ‘made on vancouver island’ liferafts with a special protective ‘anti military grade’ novichok shield for anyone who is concerned about losing there bearings while wandering in a fog on a sea of propaganda.. it comes with a state of the art radar so you can always know ‘where’ you are... it’s been appropriately named after that slayer of the false ‘wikipedia’, and now referred to as the ‘wikipedia radar’.. unfortunately, it hasn’t been mass produced for walmart or other such esteemed consumer outlets, and i don’t accept credit cards, especially if they’re from russia! i might make an exception for someone named boris….

Maestro of the Rafts: I must say, you're made on Vancouver Island' liferafts sound like the ultimate escape plan from both misinformation and military-grade novichok. The 'Wikipedia Radar' is the pièce de résistance! I've always dreamt of sailing through the sea of propaganda with a trustworthy craft named Slayer of the False Wikipedia.

However, I must confess, I was planning to pay with a rare and extremely exclusive currency: Chuckles and Giggles. Do you accept those? I promise it is at least as good as the Iranian rial.

I look forward to navigating the tumultuous waters of information with style and humor!

Does it come with cup holders? or are those upcharged?

Boris.
(That's really not my name but thought I might get a discount,)

AJ wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:03 pm
Maestro of the Rafts: I must say, you're made on Vancouver Island' liferafts sound like the ultimate escape plan from both misinformation and military-grade novichok. The 'Wikipedia Radar' is the pièce de résistance! I've always dreamt of sailing through the sea of propaganda with a trustworthy craft named Slayer of the False Wikipedia.

However, I must confess, I was planning to pay with a rare and extremely exclusive currency: Chuckles and Giggles. Do you accept those? I promise it is at least as good as the Iranian rial.

I look forward to navigating the tumultuous waters of information with style and humor!

Does it come with cup holders? or are those upcharged?

Boris.

(That's really not my name but thought I might get a discount,)

according to porton down, this novichok shield works 100% effectively.. the liferaft comes with cup holders specifically designed for antique royal doulton salt glazed stoneware, which was specifically designed to hold vodka.. because of the novichok shield, you don’t have to worry about the possibility of novichok poisoning, but it is hard to get the real authentic vodka from russia these days, due the sanctions…. the british model of the liferaft also has a media entertainment console- waterproof of course), which contains all the john le carre movies ever released, along with sound tracks to every album the sex pistols were known to produce.. essentially you can live in your liferaft bubble for up to one month, as long as you’re good at fishing and like sashimi.. i would be willing to throw in a fishing rod, seeing as your name is boris.. my name is bullwinkle, and as memory serves, we always got along!

I think I'll pay a quick visit to ChatGPT (a.k.a. Geppetto) now and ask him to recast this entire conversation as an Edgar Allan Poe-esque poem, hoping it doesn't make the mistake of turning it into a Hitchcock movie by filling it with crows and ravens. Nevermore. I'm afraid he will refuse to do so, as it, too, just like Pinocchio, was programmed to align only with his creators' narrative.

You're perfectly entitled to your view, Stella. (re. Amazing Station charts thread).

I must admit, as you say, you have done quite a lot of work so I will try and go through it. After spending a few hours on our own work it's maybe not then so easy to spend another few hours going through everybody else's. One has to draw the line somewhere!

When I read about the Solar Arc aspected by transits post and its resulting midpoint tree it struck me that this part rather agreed more with those whose judgement was that he was probably murdered (particularly the latter parts).

Mars = Neptune/Pluto (Ebertin:"A lack of energy, the misfortune to be used as a tool for other people's interests, a lack of resistance and stamina, the tendency to succumb to external forces, being utilized as a medium". Witte:"Secret activities that are destructive, Insidious. Cunning actions. To work without planning, without using the head. An undertaking which has been rushed and set going without considerations")
= Hades/Kronos ("Base acts of the boss, the superior or the government, To be in the hands of the detective force, mass murder")
=Mercury/Kronos ("The inquiring power of the state...")
=Cupido/Vulcanus("powerful organization")
=AriesPoint/Admetos("Homicide, Fighting resistance")

Greg, nice catch, bravo! But now the question is 'Who was Navalny's real boss, who was interested in his demise for his own interests. Was it Putin, or was it Biden and CIA? That's still an open question.

Now you're getting a bit silly I'm afraid. He was in a Russian prison and had been moved there a few weeks previously. One assumes not under the orders of Joe Biden who's probably got worse things on his mind (after he's been given his shot!).

Greg Young wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:45 pm Now you're getting a bit silly I'm afraid. He was in a Russian prison and had been moved there a few weeks previously. One assumes not under the orders of Joe Biden who's probably got worse things on his mind (after he's been given his shot!).

This might sound silly to you, but there are so many testimonies suggesting Navalny was a CIA asset. Whoever is pulling Biden's strings wanted Navalny dead, so his death can be used as a means of propaganda to convince the Congress to pass a long-stalled $60 billion aid package (from US tax payer's money) that is "crucial to Ukraine's defense". There's your 'not silly" personal opinion and there's some silly common sense and critical thinking not in alignment with your personal opinion.

Yes I know that but just because two things are going on at roughly the same time doesn't mean they are connected and I remain more convinced by Putin ordering him to be taken to a remote prison to be murdered out of the way and in relative solitude. That just seems much more plausible to me though I admit we live in crazy times!

So Biden is responsible for Navalny's death in russian prison in Siberia LOL.

My interest in this thread just died a bit.

Stefan wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:16 pm So Biden is responsible for Navalny's death in russian prison in Siberia LOL.

Nope, Biden is no longer responsible for anything, according to mainstream Media.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna137975
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 527362007/

My interest in this thread just died a bit.

Same here.

on the topic of navalny's death, i want to come back to listing the astrological observations that i and others have made that have resonance with me here...
my first comment on page 2 of this thread "using sidereal - 2023 solar return ascendant is at 15 virgo 37... navalnys natal pluto is 15 virgo 33... that is pretty close... navalnys ascendant degree is 4 virgo 51... transit neptune in the 2023 solar return chart is at 3 pisces 25 - very close to the descendant of the 23 solar retun chart.."

navalnys death coincides with the solar return ascendant landing on the degree of his natal pluto... natal pluto is in the first house.. what can we say about pluto rising in a chart and what that implies? usually i think of someone who is more intense and secretive by nature, for whatever reason.. perhaps the environment have motivated this response.. of course as a general symbol pluto is associated with death and transformation.. the imagery is fitting here, regardless the basis for his death.. and what can we say about neptune transiting his natal descendant? neptune is supposed to be a weakening energy on a persons physical vitality... regardless of how he died these 2 factors that show up strongly in the sidereal solar return for 2023, and its relation to his natal chart have to be taken into consideration.. of course the natal sun opposite neptune would also feed into this topic of his health and vitality as sun is a general symbol for health, while neptune is generally a weakening or debilitating energy on the physical level... sun also rules his 12th house..

i want to talk about navalnys natal chart... i have shared it again below for quicker reference..



the ruler of his ascendant - mercury - is in the 9th house in taurus... that he was primarily concerned with politics is also reinforced with the sun and venus being in the 9th house as well.. and he has been international in scope for various reasons i might get to here as well.. the fact his sun rules the 12th house brings to light the idea that he was involved in behind the scenes dynamics.. this is also emphasized by moon in leo in the 12th as well.. i suppose this would also feed into the idea of him playing the role of a martyr, working for foreign intel agencies and a wide host of possibilities based on these astrological set ups in his natal chart - sun, moon and pluto rising - all contributing towards this possibility fairly strongly as i see it.

mars and saturn are in cancer, which is not an especially strong placement for them, and they happen to rule the 6th and 8th houses which are the source of challenges, both health and behind the scene dynamics that aren't out in the open and easy to read.. saturn is in a fairly close square to uranus which would polarize his ideological and political make up in a particular way to create a lot of internal tension in him... that he was involved with racist and hate ideology much earlier in his rise to fame is generally not known, or dismissed, but it is a fact that is easily verifiable.. again - critical thinking is required - people need to do their own research as opposed to being spoon fed.. send me a pm if you are interested.. bottom line - saturn in square to uranus is a very push pull duo where one generally identifies with one end of the square or opposition, while projecting the other end onto others.. i suspect he identified most strongly as the ''revolutionary'' - uranus..

one midpoint that strikes me as very challenging in this chart is moon at the midpoint of saturn/ascendant. this would be an especially problematic set for him having to be in an isolated environment - prison being the ultimate example of this.. this would suggest a much greater propensity to depression and a feeling of suffering.. combined with what appears to be a more fragile health system, would make it all worse... moon being a symbol for a part of one's mental processes, is very stuck in this 12 house position... i can imagine all sorts of gloomy possibilities for how he would process this while in isolation..

in the transits for the time of his death in the chart shown below, the degree of the ascendant is very close to his natal mars, while jupiter directly squares onto this degree within a degree... jupiter in aries is essentially transiting his natal 8th house, while mercury at 23 capricorn is directly squaring his natal jupiter at 23 aries in the natal 8th ( whole sign houses).. mercury is the ruler of the natal virgo ascendant chart.. i tend to view jupiter transits and jupiter in focus as having a connection to death, as one is released into a different journey on a higher or different level.. that jupiter shows up here and as being highlighted in his natal chart makes sense.. although only jupiter and ketu land in the 8th house natal - using whole sign houses, in the 2023 solar return we see 4 planets in the 8th, including the ascendant ruler - mercury.. this 2023 solar return chart is shown below the death chart immediately shown below..





i personally think there are enough factors from the natal, transit and solar return chart to confirm his death, but it isn't something i would have contemplated prior to his death... if i was asked astrologically what the cause of his death was here - i would base it on poor health... now, this could have been made worse by various experiences he has had along the way, no doubt.. would someone with a chart like his take good care of himself?? the astrological indications for me, strike me as very unlikely..

i'd like to return to a few observations that 2 posters on this thread have highlighted.

the issue that stefan brought up regarding the square of mars to his nodal axis was very interesting...i wouldn't characterize it the same way as stefan, but i thought it was relevant what he said - courageous and etc. etc.. i was thinking about mars closeness to the nodal axis in relation to the pattern that aquastellea had also mentioned previously - mars at the neptune/pluto square.... in a strict sense, the nodes are not at this same midpoint unless one uses a wide orb.. mars is a bit more then 1 degree off an exact square to the nodal axis.. but it is interesting non the less and i think much can be gotten off both of these observations made by stefan and aquastellea.. aquastellea also highlighted this set up in relation to some of the predictive charts we can use to understand an event better... i have lost the observations i was making on this the past week, as i have had a busy week outside and not able to attend to this thread like i would have liked.. nor did i write notes to stay on top of it!

another observation off the 2023 solar return chart is the close 135 between sr sun and sr pluto.. in the death transit chart t pluto is still within a 1 1/2 degree aspect to navalnys natal sun, but it is much closer in the 2023 solar return chart...

i did some work on navalnys solar return for 2010... i was curious about this because 2010 was navalnys first trip to the usa -august 2010... i will go into this in my next post... also, the issue of the documentary on navalny.. it won an oscar march 12th 2023.... whether one sees this as a propaganda video, or reality, seems to be based on your sources, lol.. one would think this ought to show up in navalnys 2022 solar return in some small way. i come back to an ongoing question i asked myself when i first heard of navalny's death..... 'who benefits?' that navalny was so low in his popularly ratings in russia goes without saying, in spite of how most have been given the impression he was the opposition to putin.. it is laughable because it is so far removed from the truth - again - one could find this out if they were interested..

can anyone see an inheritance fight over navalny from the 2023 solar return chart?? apparently he named his mother, not his wife, as the executor of his will..

i will close with a question... would would the astrology look like if navalny died of a blood clot?? how do you think that would show up in the astrology?