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Newcastle-Arsenal, Dec.5, 19.45 GMT
http://www.astronor.com/071205Newcastle.gif

Odds: Home 5,5 Draw 3,5 Away 1,65

Can Newcastle topple Arsenal's scales?
Arsenal must be the Leo Asc. Lord of Asc., the Sun is square Uranus.
Lord of Des is sextile Lord of 10th. Mars, lord of 10th, is square MC.
Moon and Venus are joined in the 1st degree of Scorpio (Bills says Newcastle is Scorpio? I would have gone for Aquarius?) Can Moon, Venus be fortunate for Newcastle and being in the first degree showing a first time loss for Arsenal. It's a long short, I know.

The Part of Spirit (nocturnal) is 22GE59.
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I still don't quite get how Shakhtar could loose 1-2 for Benfica. Shakhtar were both favourites and home team. Anyone got a clue?
Asc 28LE42 MC19TA44 PoS(n) 5CN12. Does 19 SC on the IC make the chart corrupt? None of the teams gained advancement with this result. I notice also the Moon's North Node at 1PI77 close Des.

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Hm, I miss one more detail yesterday regarding match Milan Vs Celtic and that is Moon was in Via combust way, once again it proved that is so hard to make right prediction with this palcement of Moon.
Today Moon is in Via combust way again, regarding match New Castle and Arsenal. It seams that charts are same, but because of fact that Moon is in fall and its dispositor is rx I would go for draw.
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That's interesting Goca! Both games yesterday Milan-Celtic and Shakhtar-Benfica went against the odds. Maybe we should be looking for the times when the favourites do not get it as they want.

I don't know how they work the odds out. B'ham away beating Tottenham gave 7,75:1, but if Newcastle home beat Arsenal that gives 5,5:1. You would think beating Arsenal was tougher than beating Tottenham! :-?

Looking ahead to Saturday:
AstonVilla-Portsmouth 12.45 GMT
Odds: Home 2,15 Draw 3,25 Away 3,30
http://www.astronor.com/071208Villa.gif

This should give a win for Villa. Asc 20PI44, Jupiter 27SG40 conj MC
Des 20VI44, Mercury 11SG01, detriment and combust.
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I still don't quite get how Shakhtar could loose 1-2 for Benfica. Shakhtar were both favourites and home team. Anyone got a clue?
Andrew, I look at chart Shakhtar vs Benfica.
Shakhtar has red/black sport kit quite appropriate with Leo ASC nad Sa in 1st house, so Shakhtar is ASC.
AD for Su =10 for Sa=9 that is draw or advantage for ASC team.
Moon's aspects:
trine AL4(antiscion lord 4)
opose ASa
two testimonies for DSC team. This testimonies are not so strong, but when you have nothing stronger probably it is enought for win.
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Hooray, Celtic are through :D
Frawleys method did not get right result this time.
He does say his method works best for the big games, especially finals, and not so well for less significant games. As it turned out, the Milan game was totally irrelevant in the scheme of things, and it was the Shakhtar game that was very significant.
I still don't quite get how Shakhtar could loose 1-2 for Benfica. Shakhtar were both favourites and home team. Anyone got a clue?
John's method worked for this game. As Goca pointed out, antiscial aspects are fairly minor, especially the Moon trine ant L4, but Moon opp ant Saturn (L7) was the final aspect and indicated the win for Benfica. Although I said earlier that Saturn and Sun in angular houses cancelled each other out, on second thoughts Saturn in 1st is stronger than Sun in 4th.
Both games yesterday Milan-Celtic and Shakhtar-Benfica went against the odds
How did Milan/Celtic result go against the odds? Milan were expected to win and in fact their odds shortened towards the end of the day, whereas the odds for Celtic and the draw drifted.
I don't know how they work the odds out. B'ham away beating Tottenham gave 7,75:1, but if Newcastle home beat Arsenal that gives 5,5:1. You would think beating Arsenal was tougher than beating Tottenham!
The difference is that Newcastle have home advantage, so they have a better chance than Birmingham who were away. However, I think Arsenal will win by default.

Frawley is not wrong

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Frawleys method did not get right result this time.
His method worked alright.

Had we spotted the Antiscion of L7 just inside the 10th in time we could have known. There is a hierarchy in importance and placement comes before aspects (see checklist, SA, p.80). You look for placement first and if that doesn't give you the winner you look for the aspects. No matter how many other testimonies there were for the underdogs, it only meant they probably fought like lions and gave Milan a very hard time, but the end result was already shown in the placement of AL7 in 10. Of course, the game had to start on time for that, but CL and UC games tend to start right on time, lately.

I didn't spot it either, so I also lost some money, but isn't hindsight a wonderful thing!

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Had we spotted the Antiscion of L7 just inside the 10th in time we could have known.
I did spot it in time, but I failed to point out that emplacement comes before aspects. Sorry you lost money on it, Laurie :(

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I want to try out Moon Via Combust, like Goca suggests - and go a little bit out of the expected. I also want to see if Venus and Moon in the 1st degree of Scorpio could offer some suprizes.

Newcastle-Arsenal, 19.45 GMT Asc 5LE40 MC 9AR40 PoS(n)22GE59
Odds: Home 5,50 Draw 3,5 Away 1,65
The visiting team are the favourites and the asc
I putting a small stake on the home team, who is the descendant

Basel-Brann, UEFA Cup, 19.45 GMT, Asc 7LE06 MC 19AR34 PoS(n) 24GE25
Odds: Home 1,45 Draw 4,20 Away 6,50
A small stake on the away team. Norway are Scorpio!

Everton-Zenit, UEFA Cup, 19.45, Asc 3LE27 MC8AR09, PoS(n) 20GE46
Odds: Home 1,77 Draw 3,30 Away 4,50
Everton being a Liverpool' team and Scorpio, I go for the home team.
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I did spot it in time, but I failed to point out that emplacement comes before aspects. Sorry you lost money on it, Laurie
I know you spotted it! I didn't. And it wasn't in time for me, as I had already made the bet. It's alright. It's quite a learning experience. And besides: I SHOULD have spotted it myself!

Next to AZ tonight, visiting FC N?rnberg: I think a draw 0-0, and what's more I did a horary on the "Will I profit"question and it gave a clear yes, so...... have fun and profits!

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Andrew J. Bevan wrote:I still don't quite get how Shakhtar could loose 1-2 for Benfica. Shakhtar were both favourites and home team. Anyone got a clue?
Possibly. Have a look at the natal for Ukraine. Country.

Following on from that, gone for Dinamo Zagreb. Based on Croatia natal, and watching them get beat by SK Brann last week. Unlucky really.

SK Brann too. More draw/win for that. Seems like ok natal transits for that club.

Arsenal to win also, but nothing astrological there.

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Antiscion Saturn is lurking around the MC again tonight. It would appear to favour AZ and Basel if I've got it right. I'll be interested to see if Moon in the unreliable 4th helps the away teams.