Skyscript Astrology Forum

Juan wrote:
Only natal, return, and transiting planets are checked against the progressed return angles, progressed planets are out.

Hi Juan,

Just to make sure I understand your above words. When you say ?progressed planets are out??does this mean Riyal does not calculate secondary progressed solar moon with the progressed solar return angles, using Fagan?s Solar Quotidian (SQ1) method? The other planets in a progressed solar return progress by degree arc very little (I can understand why you would leave these ?out.?) However, the secondary progressed SQ1 moon moves app. 13 degrees a year and, and at times, offers critical symbolic representation from a precise timing standpoint with solar return quotidian angles, both SQ1 & PSSR progressed rates, particular when forming a paran configuration. Out of curiosity, if the progressed solar moon is ?out? ?how much trouble would it be for you to add the progressed positions of the solar moon to your Riyal program? Understand I am not presently acclimated to Riyal but plan to start doing a-lot of work with Riyal in the near future.

BTW?thanks Atlantean for your PM response to my PM. I will try this and see if I can get up to speed with Riyal?s transiting paran function. If not I will follow-up with another PM.

Much regards, Steve

Steve wrote:When you say ?progressed planets are out??does this mean Riyal does not calculate secondary progressed solar moon with the progressed solar return angles, using Fagan?s Solar Quotidian (SQ1) ethod?

Right. You can still check it visually for conjunctions to the progressed angles, but only in terms of zodiacal longitude. Calculating the mundane position of the return progressed Moon and checking it against the progressed angles is possible but that will have to wait until I have the time and disposition to work on programming Riyal again... there is a long list of "to do" priorities waiting in line for that moment.

Juan

Juan wrote:
Calculating the mundane position of the return progressed Moon and checking it against the progressed angles is possible but that will have to wait until I have the time and disposition to work on programming Riyal again... there is a long list of "to do" priorities waiting in line for that moment.

I thoroughly understand what you mean about ?disposition to work? about new programming for Riyal. A friend and I have recently been talking about a trip (if the time is right) to Costa Rica sometime in the future. If we make this trip, I would like to meet with you and discuss some possible business with you about the possibilities for a specialized paran program. If we set the trip, I will PM you or drop you an e-mail.

Regards, Steve

I was looking at the parans in Riyal software.

These aren't the Parans tied to the Equator that Robert Hand and Kenneth Bowser uses.

They are Parans tied to Horizon which are type of parans that Bernadette Brady uses in her Fixed Star Paran system.
I have her two books on fixed stars and her Starlight software, and so I am very familiar with them.


Here is Robert Hand's article about them
https://www.alabe.com/text/Dineen-AstofPlace.html

I have his book Essays on Astrology which includes information on parans.


here is Kenneth Bowser's article about them
https://keplercollege.org/index.php/art ... s-in-mundo

his youtube video
Mundane Aspects in Astrological Interpretation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaoIxIyF3ao

I have his books Introduction to Western Sidereal Astrology and The Western Sidereal Astrology Interpretation Workbook which have information about parans.


Right Ascension of the Midheaven (RAMC) is the Local Sidereal Time (LST)


An object conjunct the Midheaven in Right Ascension is an object Culminating.

An object conjunct the Imum Coeli in Right Ascension is an object Anti-culminating




Conjunction parans:

Objects Rising together is Oblique Ascendant conjunct Oblique Ascendant

Objects Setting together is Oblique Descendant conjunct Oblique Descendant

Objects Culminating together is a conjunction in Right Ascension

Objects Anti-culminating together is a conjunction in Right Ascension


Opposition parans:

Object Rising while another object is Setting is Oblique Ascendant oppose Oblique Descendant

Object Culminating while another object is Anti-culminating is an opposition in Right Ascension


Square parans:

Object Rising while another object is Culminating is Oblique Ascendant square Right Ascension

Object Rising while another object is Anti-culminating is Oblique Ascendant square Right Ascension

Object Setting while another object is Culminating is Oblique Descendant square Right Ascension

Object Setting while another object is Anti-culminating is Oblique
Descendant square Right Ascension



Kenneth uses precession correction with paran transits.

Hi there - you will find paran analysis in Planetdance. I scripted a module using Jean Cremer's AstroBasic astrology scripting language. You can download Planetdance from www.jcremers.com. The module is found in the Time->Tools->Paran Analysis menu item.

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Thanks. Ed

The new Astrolog version 7.40 can do paran transits! Astrolog has supported Astrocartography since 1991, which of course allows one to map lines on the world where planets or stars are on one of the Angles, i.e. where they're rising, setting, or on the meridian. (Astrolog can do Astrocartography for minor house cusps too, as well as display its Astrocartography lines in 3D globe form instead of just in 2D map form.) Parans are basically where two lines cross, and Astrolog can detect and display all such crossing points, as well as cities in the atlas that are close to them. For example, my chart's output includes: Paran transits basically compare two different charts. This can be done by plotting the lines for a natal chart, and then plotting the lines for a transiting (or progressed) chart, and calculating where the two sets of lines cross. You can also do relationship Astrocartography by doing the lines for two different people, and see where one person's lines cross another person's, to find locations that strongly affect two people (e.g. in a couple). Note that comparison Astrocartography can produce crossings that will never be present in a single Astrocartography chart, such as transiting Venus Descendant line crossing the same natal Venus Descendant line at a particular location (example Astrolog output below):