Geoffrey said:
I think that there is a tendency to treat what Lilly says in CA as holy writ and that every word in there is correct and should be used as the foundation of our astrology.
In truth, it would appear more accurate to say that Lilly wrote all those definitions and descriptions in the front of the book as a matter or record, but we need to go to the charts and examples to see how he used these techniques in practice.
Then there is the dilemma - do we do as Lilly said or as Lilly did? Much of the argument about Lilly's horary methods have hinged on this matter.
That is true of all astrology data, Moderne or Traditional.
We look at the documentation of prior writers, pre 1700, and they are holy or sacred as they are from those of the art centurys before us. But as Lilly found in that he rejected much of the prior horary lore, just because men wrote it and believed it does Not nessasarily mean it was the absolute truth.
Same with any science, and Lilly does place astrology in the 9th, just because scientists of renown believed certain things to be true doesn't mean they are the total absolute authority.
Same with the composite of books, wrote primarily independent from each other from the Bible, which include a great amount of pro astrology verses contrary to what many astrologers have been assaulted with out of much ignorance.
If we think of all the pre-1700 books as our collective of astro lore, sacred documents, but remember like the Bible there are errors and things that aren't nessasarily correct.
Because Lilly and the Ancients utilized this concept of planets perfecting even if the slower moving body had passed into another sign yet within orb and moeity and the participants of Angelicus Merlin Forum seemed to unanamously agree that Lilly was wrong upon this method, most very accomplished Contemporary Horary astrologers, doesn't nessasarily mean that Lilly and the Ancients are wrong for all of those horarys of Lilly and our own need to be carefully evaluated.
If one can see the Parallels, as many from 9th house faiths such as Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., etc., have misunderstanding from their held sacred texts, and some have to have flaws within or there wouldn't be such division. Same with our 9th house astrology sacred documents, just because a certain writer an artists practiced and wrote certain documents does not nessasarily mean the method was empirical for we all base our methods of testing out what we believe on our own acknowledged subjectivity.
Clinton Garrett Soule
Wise men truly know how little they know
