I will agree that i come from another area of trying to understand our progress, but psychics that are sincere have to work very hard developing gifts.
Yes i experiment in astrology orbs, but we have to agree with my research regarding the 2 World Wars.
June 28th is the Serbian National Day that is connected to assassinations, also before Hindenburg's death, on 2nd August 1934 at 9:00am., Hitler and the Nazi party forged documents that indicated that Hindenburg wanted Hitler to take over as "Fuhrer" when he died, so the above date and time are important in Berlin.
I have already mentioned the crucial times in the First World War and the Second World War.
Juno seems to be within two degrees to an angle on all these charts, and nobody could dispute this.
We have seen that a lot of spiritual beliefs have become more aggressive in the last few years, even Buddhist's in Sri Lanka.
I wish not to get in dispute with American's, as i am very in tune with them, but fundamental beliefs within the Christian Church is very negative in regards to the Book of Revelations.
I feel very sympathetic to Dr. David Kelly, who was a defence expert that was put under so much pressure that he slashed his wrists, in regards to the 2nd Gulf War. Obviously, we know that the report that led England to war in Iraq, was due to a student paper dealing with the 1991 Gulf War!
I do try to put this very complex dangerous period into some sort of order.
Originally i put the time of the Pentagon attack down as 09:45am., but now most reports put this down as 09:37am, which puts Juno within a degree of the M.C.
The first attack on the World Trade Centre, happened as far as i Know at 12:17pm. on 26th Feb. 1993, which puts Juno very near the Asc.
We may see a pattern by the London attack on 7th July 2005 at 08:50am.
We would have to agree that the Beslan, Russia attack on school children, was horrible, this started on 1st September 2004 at 9am., Juno less than a degree away from the I.C.
We may think that Juno is mixed up into religious beliefs, and religion can cause a lot of suffering.
Whoever have beliefs connected to the Coptic Calendar could be negative to our situation.
If you look at previous research that i have put on this thread, others may believe in negative considerations in the Coptic Calendar, as you know i looked for a connection with the Mayan Calendar, as others may have done.
Earlier i looked at a Regulus connection, others may view this from revelatons, i dont!
But perhaps we may look at others beliefs with Regulus and the Coptic Calendar by this web -link:-
http://www.mayamysteryschool.com/venusround.htm

News item from Bloomberg news:-
"Oct. 11th 2006--A Luxemberg passenger train hit a freight train in the Lorraine region of France, killing about 10 passengers and injuring 20, the state SNCF railway company said.
The trains collided near the village of Zoufftgen, (49*N27', 06*E08'), just 100 meters from the border with Luxembourg.
The crash occurred at about 11:45am."
M.C. is 21*32', Juno is 25*51' and Mean Node is 23*59', all in Virgo.

Hi everyone,
I have a thread on this forum, but under a different index section, being "traditional and ancient techneques" under "Sirius Calendars and religion" thread which relates to the electional astrology of Pope Gregory XIII.
That has some bearing to this thread, and calendars, please look up, as i will continue now with that thread in mind.
I have no idea why a small rock like Juno become so powerful, but if we look at what got trapped within astrology at the time of the birth of our modern Gregorian Calendar, that wasnt studied at the time it my need careful consideration.
The change over from the Julian and Gregorian calendar happened between 4th Oct. and 15th Oct 1582, where you will find that Juno is conjunct Sirius.
The first year of the Gregorian was at midnight between 31 Dec. 1582 and 1 Jan 1583, where Sirius is on the M.C. continually at the stroke of New Year till 1703, but if we look at the First Gregorian New Year we find Juno approx. 3 degrees from the M.C.......could this account for the power it has now? I have no idea, i will leave that to astrologers far better than i to work out....but it is a thought!
There are two Calendars today in use that celebrate the Heliacal rising of Sirius that is symbolic on 11th September that you may want to research being the "Coptic Calendar" and the "Ethiopian Calendar".
There is one other that was only in use for a few years, being the "French Revolution Republican Calendar which although attached its "New Year" to the Equinox's celebrated Sirius by the beginning of one of its months being "Vendemiare" (vintage) that started on September 11th.
Again i would have to say that i am not pointing any fingers at anyone, with this apparent secret faith connected with ancient Egyptians, yet whatever conflict is being played out, it seems that all religions value Sirius that is hidden.
Symbolism concerning 11th September 2001 is overwhelming......the symbolism of Sirius is a five pointed star or "Pentagon" and on a date that some calendars celebrate the heliacal rising of Sirius, we had the horror of human symbolism which seems intended. Any idea whats going on?
Why all this symbolism.....the Pentagons earth breaking ceremony was held on 11 Sept. 1941....this is a fact.
I'm liberal with beliefs and religion, and America had the horror of this day, but i would like to know the symbolism behind it as even with our own Gregorian calendar there seems to have been electional astrology aligned to Sirius that is the Genesis of this calendar.

just to give you further food for thought, the Pilgrims, the first stable colony in the US, (Jamestown disappeared) set out for America on 16 September 1620 (old calendar) from Plymouth England or 23 Virgo Sun and 22 Virgo Neptune

on 11 september 1941 the north Node was at 22 Virgo

but really the strong T square with Sun at 18 Virgo, Pluto at 12 SAg and Saturn at 14 Gemini, was pretty darn ugly, dont you think? and the Mars oppositions Moon and North Node was not pretty either. Then Venus moving to oppose Uranus? 11 sept 2001 had several less than kind application of aspects... anyway, more food for thought..

Granny

Hi Granny Scott,
Thanks for your reply, when i can be able to look at this i'm sure it is interesting.
At the moment i feel lost, firstly i would like to heal the connection between myself and this forum.....i know i am not an astrologer like what is needed for the scope of intellect and knowledge of astrologers that sit on this forum.
I see as i feel, but as the i know how how much information and study is involved to be a top class astrologer, where as i am a psychic, that is in the middle of two different groups, obviously i dont feel comfortable, some is due to my fault, and some is due to intellect being suspicious and wary of how i process information.
I can go off the boil with a process which i am not in control of, astrology charts to me have a fascination that sometimes can be of interest to astrologers.
I value all religions, especially those that started these religions.
Am i trying to start an impression that Pope Gregory used astrology all the time....certainly not! For myself i have to experience the mood of the time, and i feel that Pope Gregory didnt think that astrology when linked to a calendar was the same as how he felt about astrology in general.
But as always the way with beliefs, and i must admit that i am wary of electional astrology, because we dont know what we are doing yet, i'm not sure what problems this holds for us today!
But i am very optimistic with our collective journey, and as long as we always try to heal and not destroy, we will be okay!
This is a very brainy forum that i truly respect, Psychics will be always held in suspicion which i agree with.
Probably half i write has no connection with astrologers, but i am really trying to bridge the gap.
I dont get spooked over human involvement in symbolism, that can be changed, i see it all the time, but it can be a problem in how i try to show this.
Lets look at some light hearted symbolism between Hollywood and people who like scary movies!
The first Omen film was released on 6th June 1976, so lighthearted people would get a tingle up the spine as it was 666, the remake was released on 06/06/06 to promote the same harmless sensation.
But we know some people take the book of revelations so seriously and to the extreme.
Terrorists do this by way of the internet, we know what they show if we are idiots enough to look!
However brainy we are superstition can make us wary of people who use astrology differently, and so you should be!
I'm not a doomsday person, okay we have a lot of problems today but if we keep on trying, and trying to understand each other, the dark clouds will go away in time.
Sometimes i scare people by showing symbolism that have been activated by humans.....I'm sure we can deal with that, working out what astrology means without human involvement and getting to the real bottom of all myths and legends, i can see that taking some time!

I for one have been greatly enjoying your observations; I don?t think you need to acquiesce to others thoughts, if you feel the need to explain yourself further I would be reading your posts to enjoy the interesting things you express, not from any form of criticism. You have made some interesting observations, others have different experiences, neither is better or worse than the other, merely the observations of different people.

I would hope one could disagree without being disagreeable, but since I know what a temper I have I?m certainly not one to talk. In any case, please keep writing, it isn't about making your stuff fit others ideas, its about expressing your thoughts and listening to others thoughts.

Granny

Hi Granny Scott,
thank you for your kind words, but i do realise i need to handle emotional responses better, although i may have merit with astrologers for a while.
Logic has to rule the my emotional side.
I'm going to put my natal details down, not to be important....that makes me feel sick, but in the hope this will bring forward someone better than myself who can bridge the gap between psychics and logical astrology.
I dont have any aspirations, but i do have a motive which is so strong which is karma astrology, i worry so much that i am forced to write about religion, yet i am very religious....it really burns me, and when i do see clearly, it hurts me when it is about religion.
Writing about religion can cause people to go off their head, i wouldnt want that....it is so hard for me to talk about this difficult subject.
For many months there has been a prompting to find things out over our calendars which left me very angry....i truly didnt want to look in this direction...it was like toothache!
Because of this, perhaps i involved myself in threads that i shouldnt have, i know i upset Tom on a thread that needed logic, i really am sorry, but i was so angry with myself being pushed within myself to write about religion, and knowing i hadnt found what i needed to to make it clear to astrologers.....hell when i am forced to talk about religion, hopefully i can raise a smile as my face is like a bull dog chewing a wasp, i hate talking about religion!
But to have a balanced view point, i wish to leave it up to logic, so this is why it write freely to you, you i respect so much.
I dont need an astrologer to see that i have a deep religious background, i know that myself but i would like to be an experiment, so that the bridge in between can be looked at if you experience better psychics than myself.
Be careful in analysis with my chart as i do face my demons, and i dont trust myself either, but i am sincere whatever my problems.
I only put my details on this forum because i want to close the gap and dont want to be your only one, so please use your analysis, i do not like being in the limelight even if i have a Regulus M.C.
I am filled with karma, so i feel a need to release it, with religious beliefs.
If i look too sincere, then i can only say that it is a gift from England who look after disabled people, perhaps my view would change if i couldnt feed myself!
Perhaps it may help, between psychics and the logic of astrologers, lets try!
If you want to look at impulses look at quintiles, Moon, Saturn, Chiron, Dwarf planet Ceres, and Venus, and change to south mean node.
Ironic the symbol of Sirius.
Wednesday 8th August 1956 at 13:59pm. in London. The time is accurate, my father was a mason, but dont consider that, i dont do oaths, but wouldnt want to hurt them, as with any religion.
Perhaps we can help each other, my motive is purely karma.
I didnt choose the thread name of monk for nothing, but i am very emotional, and a private person.

In finding what i needed regarding calendars, this has created an internal conflict and emotions, which needs a period of time for self healing.
Hopefully this process will only take weeks.
During this process i need space between myself and forums.

ESOTERIC ASTROLOGY.
I would have to say as a psychic, then i should shut up for a few weeks, as this needs logical thought, but as physically ill as i am, there is a need to try to bridge a gap, i feel a little better today.
Pope Gregory probably had a motive that aligning Sirius to the stroke of New year, was probably to introduce one religion, with his understanding of ancient knowledge to how this was achieved, by way of calendars and our perception of time.
Although ancient calendars may have influenced him, such as the Coptic calendar.....obviously he used projected fixed stars.
We know that the "Rosetta Stone" was carved in 196 B.C., when Greeks understood the Egyptian "Picture Writing".
This understanding was lost till 1799, when French soldiers found the Rosetta Stone, thus as the same thing was written in ancient Egyptian, and Greek we where able to learn much more of the philosophy of the Egyptians. We may then have seen the power of a direct paran, in regards to using the projected fixed star way, leading to better understanding. This needs much more research.
The prime meridian of the world is Greenwich, London, Kent, U.K., with longitude, which controls time.
The Basis of longitude, the prime meridian, was established in 1851 although adopted at an international conference in 1884, when Victorian England was at the height of world power. For a small island we may think this is strange!
The basis of being idealistic without being patriotic only performs without discrimination in our modern era, before perhaps any number of countries may have perceived the power of Sirius but not been able to put it to full use in relation to all.
At the moment i dont want to go into "Time Zones", leave that to another day when i feel more logical and rested.
Lets look at the principle of esoteric Sirius astrology.
We go to a number of very different astrologers for this, Blavatsky,Theosophists and Alice Bailey.
We can discuss the spiritual values of Sirius later.
Lets look at the practical things that may happen when Sirius is aligned to our calender by Egyptian Parans.
The 1st Jan is a marker of New Year that started with Sosigenes.
Pope Gregory it would seem aligned our calendar to Sirius by projected fixed stars....although i think this is a weaker alignment than Egyptian Paran.
As luck would have it, this means that the Egyptian paran came into effect, in regards to Sirius and our calendar within a few centuries.
The Victorian Age, like no other modern age was responsible for the beginnings of most scientific discoveries.
Be careful in analysis of who and why any country used Sirius, to see what it means today needs an idealistic approach for the needs of all countries, so lets not point fingers....if we do this it is negative, to how we approach this today with our problems.
The Egyptians valued Sirius within a calendar and was a great civilization.
The Victorians controlled time by the Greenwich observatory.
The Egyptian paran in line with Greenwich, London, Kent, UK. with Sirius and our calendar started in 1802, but obviously not for all years, being a gradual process.
This gradual process means that by 1818, Sirius aligned with Greenwich every New Year till 1st Jan 1904.....Just after the Victorian Era when Englands Power began to falter!
Now we only experience some years when this aligns, the last being in 2097.
This is an interesting factor that needs a lot more research.
A lot of astrologers dont study fixed stars as they can have two meanings, the spiritual stars always have a nemesis if we dont follow them in an idealistic way that benefits all.
Lets look at the nemesis of Sirius....it could be interesting!
Of great importance to ancient Egyptians was the fact that the heliacal rising of Sirius occurred nearly simultaneously with the yearly flooding of the Nile.
A factor that made them a great civilization, as we know it takes a lot of effort to be hunter/gatherers, and leaves very little time for great philosophers/science, as knowing when flooding occurred means they planted crops that sustained the empire, thus leaving room for gifted individuals to "Think".
We also must ponder the Sothis Cycle as this made us capable of keeping track of time periods much longer than a year.
Interestingly, the association of Sirius with an abundence of water appears elswhere than Egypt in the ancient world as well.
In fact, it is possible that Sirius was associated with deluges in general.
The Romans of the first century AD thought the influence of Sirius brought highly destructive weather. Further associations of Sirius with water themes occurs in the Zend-Avesta, which calls Tishtriya (or Sirius) the author of rain and the daemon of dryness. According to the Zend-Avesta, the supreme god once made Tishtriya cause a massive flood as punishment for mens wickedness and corruption.
could this be its nemesis.....according to the Zoroastrian religion, sirius was a maker of rain and great waters?
We may look at another theme of Sirius....success that can burn you....the Dog Days of Summer, meaning very hot summers.
Civilisation needs energy, perhaps we are now seeing the nemesis of Sirius....being very hot summers and flooding, and the product of trying to align our calendar to Sirius for too long....it is only a thought but interesting when we think of global warming!
I have a lot more in my head but it must wait, i need to rest, honestly my health isnt that good, and can effect my mind.

Texts from the Quran can help with understanding and cross reference of Sirius, from the web-link provided, scroll down to verse 053.049.
www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/053.qmt.html

I would have to say that the odds for electional astrology is very high in regards to 23:59pm on the 4th Oct. 1582 when Sirius is in paran to the Asc. and at midnight between 31st Dec. 1582 and 1st Jan 1583 when Sirius is conjunct the M.C. at the start of the Gregorian Calendar.
Yet by joining all to the spiritual properties of Sirius, i doubt as a human race we could ever live up to Sirius's principles.
Lets look at traditional electional astrology as valued by Agrippa.
A conjunction of the angle with a fixed star was considered especially important for any project that was meant to have long standing permanence.
According to Agrippa, describing its talismanic use, "Under the Greater Dog Star, they made an image of a hound and a little virgin; it bestoweth honour and good will, and the favour of men, and aerial spirits, and giveth the power to pacify and reconcile kings, princes, and other men".
Three Books of Occult Philosophy Bk. II, chapter 47.
Yet all spiritual stars have a nemesis, if its principles are not adherred to,...pretty difficult if you dont know about what took place!
I would have to say that kings dont always have the favour of Sirius.
Please look up Nicholas II of Russia on Wikipedia.
As most myths about the slaughter of the Romanov's have now been shown that no one survived, we can now think of Yakov Yurovsky's account of this murder as believable.
He was the leader of the bolsheviks that carried out the slaughter, and was a watchmaker from Perm, so his interest in the timing has to be valued....but all watches can be out especially before quartz, perhaps we can think the time line can be moved by 2-3 minutes.
Yurovsky said the slaughter took place at 02:33am on 17th July 1918, yet if we look at 02:36 , 17th July 1918, in Yekaterinburg, Russia, (56*N51', 60*E36') we find that Sirius is conjunct the Asc. +00*47' by projected fixed stars.

Monk, in 1583, they were still marking days sunset to sunset.

BUT interestingly if you do the Oct 4 1582 julian chart, with 20 Aries 55 Asc, You find that Sirius is on the IC.

Which Probably puts Alrisha or Vertex on the Asc. both intersting.
From Ann Wright:
Vertex - History of the star: Great Andromeda Nebula, a dense cluster of stars situated to the north of Andromeda's head. It was called the Great Nebula, the Queen of the Nebulae. It is said to have been known as far back as A.D. 905, and was described by Al Sufi as the Little Cloud before 986 A.D. (Allen).

Influence of the constellation: It is said to bestow purity of thought, virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging, decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Pe and the 17th Tarot Trump, "The Stars". (Robson).

General influence of the star: It causes blindness, injuries to the eyes, sickness and a violent death. (Robson).

Rising: The man whose birth coincides with the rising of Andromeda from the sea will prove merciless, a dispenser of punishment, a warder of dungeon dire; he will stand arrogantly by while the mothers of wretched prisoners lie prostrate on his threshold, and the fathers wait all night to catch the last kisses of their sons and receive into their inmost being the dying breath. From the same constellation comes the figure of the executioner, ready to take money for a speedy death and the rites of a funeral pyre, for him execution means profit, and oft will he bare his axe; in short, he is a man who could have looked unmoved on Andromeda herself fettered to the rock. Governor of the imprisoned he occasionally becomes a fellow convict, chained to criminals so as to save them for execution. (Manilius, "Astronomica").


Alrisha- History of the star: A double and probably binary, 3.9 and 5.5, pale green and blue, in the Knot of the Cord that binds the two Fishes of Pisces.

Alrisha is also called Okda from the Arabic Al-'Uqdah (1), "The knot".

Variations on Alrisha are Al Rescha, Al Rischa, Al Risha', or Ar-Risha'. This word originally may have come from the Babylonian Riksu, "Cord".

Classic Greek names were Sundesmos and Desmos. They were rendered by Cicero and others as Nodus, Nodus coelestis, and Nodus Piscium; by Pliny as Commissura Piscium; and in the 1515 Almagest as Nodus duorum filorum.

The Arabians translated these as 'Ukd al H'aitam, Okda and Kaitain.

The uniting cords, branching from alpha through omicron, pi, eta, and rho to the tail of the northernmost Fish, and through xi, nu, mu, f, zeta, epsilon, and delta to omega that marks the tail of the one to the south, the one Ptolemy's called... "thread," Cicero called them Vincla, the "Bonds"; and the scholiast on Germanicus, Alligamentum linteum or luteum, divided by Hevelius into Linum boreum "North Line" and Linum austrinum "South Line". (Some of these terms also were applied to the star delta as marking one of the cords).

The Arabians knew these cords as Al H'ait al Kattaniyy, "the Flaxen Thread"; and Al Asma'i, about the year 800, mentioned them in his celebrated romance Antarah as a distinct constellation; but Pliny had done the same long before him. (Allen).

This star that binds the Fishes together has a unifying influence.

Influence of the constellation: The Fishes are associated with the Hebrew letter Pe and the 17th Tarot Trump "The Stars". (Robson).