This is my conclusion for the period between 2001 January 1 and 2006 January 1:

The fatal motorcycle crash may have occurred on the 2nd of September, 2004 at 22:49 GMT

(More generally between September 2 and 12).

The person is born with two closely formed configurations:

Mars opp. Mc conj. Saturn (orb 1d 46')
Sun sq. Uranus (orb 1d 40') and Sun sq. Pluto(orb 1d 14')

Mars-Mc-Saturn ====> death, Sun-Uranus-Pluto ====> sudden catastrophe

If a person born with the above configurations experience sudden catastrophe and death, those configurations must be activated by directions and the first activation since childhood years occurred between July 12, 2004 and June 1, 2009. This principle was used to eliminate years 2001 thru 2003.

Pluto directed to Asc and began applying a square to ME/UR on June 18,2004.
Uranus directed to an exact conjunction with natal MA/NE on August 19, 2004.

The mid-way between the 2 Uranus stations of 2004(to Asc and Mercury) was on August 26, 2004.

The description "The damaged motorbike was found a mile further up the railway track" pointed to an extraordinary release of energy that can only be attributed to Mars-Pluto and Uranus-Pluto.

Tr. Pluto station squaring NE/AS and Mars on August 30, 2004
Tr. UR/PL station sesquisquaring natal Sun on October 14, 2004 and will be within 1 degree orb from July 4, 2004 until the end of the year.
Tr. SA/NE sesquisquare Mars exactly on September 3, 2004.

Solar arc directions activate what is shown in the Nativity, and the transits, mainly of Sun and Mars, trigger directions. Tr. Mars will move through the 8 degrees between natal Uranus and natal Mars from August 26 to September 10. Tr. Sun will do the same from September 2 to September 11.

Initially I selected September 10 for the accident when Tr. Sun activated the natal Mars-Mc-Saturn, but after seeing SU/MO in hard aspect with MA/SA for a public death and Tr. MA/SA in very close square to natal AS/MC, settled on September 2, 22:49 GMT.
(Time obtained by assuming "perfect alignment" meant an exact hard aspect of Tr. Moon to its natal position)

Hi Deb,
Using vedic techniques (dasha periods), the year 2005 seems to be dangerous. More specifically Jan - Sep. Looking at the transits I would like to try to narrow it down to 27 June to 1 July.

Best Wishes....Bobby

End of July 2001?

Saturn arrived to the trine of Sun by direction and Saturn by transit is on radix Sun.

Saturn is in Gemini while Mars is in Sagittarius so both are squaring natal Saturn and Mars, as they are on radix Sun and South Node. Moon is in trine with radix Moon.

margherita

Thanks for the new contributions. If anyone else wants to suggest a month in which this happened please do so quickly.

Tomorrow I will reveal the location of the accident and the month and year that it occured. If anyone then wants to try to identify the date (or specific time), they will get the opportunity to do that in the last few days of August.

Regards
Deb

I will give it a try, hopefully I will kill him at the right time!

At first I was convinced that he couldn?t have died on 2002, because we have both benefics, venus and jupiter, conjunct the natal ascendent. But I think that, as they were so weak in the natal chart, locked on the 12th house, they don?t have the necessary strenght to save him from harm.
Besides that, in the RS we have mars in fall right on the ASC. So, this seem like an important and dangerous time.
Also, moon, again ruler of the ASC, in ingressing to natal saturn. Saturn is with the sun in the 12th house, and is again eclipse season!

Now let?s try to narrow it down a little, assuming the reasoning is right untill now...

By month profection - 3april-3 may 2003
In november firdaria changes from sun to venus, but I am not sure which would be dangerous.
Progression of the moon - will make oppositions (from the 6th house) to jupiter and sun, squaring dreadful saturn on november, december. In february 2003 squares mars.
Aphesis from fortuna seem to put the native in danger after october.

lunar returns that repeat the ASC of natal chart, or that put the natal mars-saturn opposition on the LR ASC:

13 Jun - inverses the angles
1 oct- mars is on the MC, MC-IC angle reverted
14 feb 03- mercury ruler of 12th is very powerfull in this chart
4 jun 03 asc in cancer again

Repetion of the aspects of the natal chart: sun with mars and saturn
around 23 august.
around 20 september
around 15 october, saturn station with mars squaring
25 nov, saturn mars trine.
3 dec, eclipse opp natal sun.
18 feb 2003

So, summing it up, I think that there are more testimonies around october (firdaria moon-sun ends in november and sun is lord of profection). If this is wrong, then it is probably in around february of 2003. But this is as far as I can go right now.

I tried to use fixed stars to explain the accident. One of my similations date is 29 july 2000. At that day..

* Transit Mars was in conjunction with is natal Moon in Cancer.

* Transit Mercury and Moon were in square with Saturn.

* Transit Saturn was close to star Beid and Jupiter was close to star Sceptrum in the Constellation of Eridanus in 12th house. (In my birth chart of Adam entrance degree of 12th house is TAU26.)

Eridanus:the river Padus or Po into which Phaeton fell when slain by Jupiter for having set the world on fire by misguiding the chariot of his father Phoebus.

Beid: danger of accidents especially at sea and of drowning.

* Transit Sun was close to Admidiske in the Constellation of Puppis the Stern of the Ship Argo Navis.

Admidiske: Drowning is particularly to be feared when Saturn afflicts the Moon. (moon was in square with saturn)

Transit Pluto was close to fixed star Kuma in the Constellation of Draco.

Kuma: danger of robbery and accidental poisoning. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Mem and the 13th Tarot Trump, Death").

Conclusion: They lost the control of the motorbike due to being overdrunk or being unconcious because of poisioning from something they ate.


Another simulation date is 6 March 1995. Sun was in conjuction Saturn and fixed star Zaurak in Eridanus. The transit Moon was conjucting Sedna (Everybody knows the story of Sedna) and the fixed star Zibal in Eridanus at the time close to midnight at that day. The transit Mars in retard was close to fixed star Dubhe, the bear.

Conclusion: May be a wild animal caused them to lose the control of the motorbike.

17 May 2002 and 8 Nov 1998 are the other dates that could be result in such an incident. There are fee more dates could be analized but did not have time:(

I will give the time (within a four week period) in one hour from now, so last chance if anyone wants to post a new contribution.

Deb

Thanks everyone. I've given the details of the four week period in which this happened, along with the details on location, and some comments on posts, in the members only area, at http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4664

I think I'm just happy that I identified one of the danger times.

Granny

I hate to be wrong, but I will do better next time, I hope, no suicide
margherita

Thanks for this learning opportunity! I am glad that I identified the circumstances of the accident. Spotting the exact time wasn't easy at all, kudos to those who gave a right answer. I am looking forward to the next mystery chart.

I would say it was 29 April 2002. at 11:30pm local time.
In that time his ruler, transit Moon was in 5 house (pleasure with friend) and in square with natal Ma, Pl, Ur, Sa, in conjunct with transit Pl and South Node, and in oposition with transit Ma and Sa., so he had grand cross which involves rulers of his house of death, (8H) , house of friend and circumstances over we have a little control (11H) and fated event (conjunct with South Node).