Skyscript Astrology Forum

Mjacob wrote:

Why shouldn't both methods give the same result? I am sure I saw another post that said different systems should give different results which is bizarre as one native has only one fate.

Having seen many charts over the years interpreted by folks who favour alternative Zodiacs I don't recall much sameness of the person arising from them. You don't see much of this either with folks who employ different house systems, aims and objectives, schemas, language and thinking..etc.

Again 'Under one Sky' demonstrated this, or Sybil as I like to call it. 12 Astrologers involved with little common ground, 11 are (mostly) deluded or all 12 are, you decide ?

Damon wrote:

This chart also fits siderally,which is puzzling. Either we are fooling ourselves or maybe more than one system works

In the past you have applied the sidereal zodiac here too so I am unclear why you suddenly find it working for you 'puzzling'. There is only a dilemma here if you have a world view where one zodiac (or house system or sign rulership system) can actually work.


Nixx wrote:

Again 'Under one Sky' demonstrated this, or Sybil as I like to call it. 12 Astrologers involved with little common ground, 11 are (mostly) deluded or all 12 are, you decide ?

It was only one exercise doing this. So I dont think its enough to draw any definitive conclusions. It is a shame it hasn't been attempted again though. Of course the skill, experience and talent of a particular astrologer is more important than any technique being applied. For example, in the book Robert Schmidt was selected for hellenistic astrology. While he is undeniably a major translator and theorist on the topic I am not clear how much experience he had to offer as a consulting astrologer at that time.

Mark

Mark wrote:

It was only one exercise doing this. So I dont think its enough to draw any definitive conclusions. It is a shame it hasn't been attempted again though. Of course the skill, experience and talent of a particular astrologer is more important than any technique being applied. For example, in the book Robert Schmidt was selected for hellenistic astrology. While he is undeniably a major translator and theorist on the topic I am not clear how much experience he had to offer as a consulting astrologer at that time.

Mark

Although my post suggested I was factoring in others, a forensic examination of the Skyscript Mysteries over the years might provide a similar narrative.

Schmidt effectively opted out in UOS . Although for me at the time one of the more interesting, even if more conceptual, reads therein. I mention this one often as it appears a lot of folks, including here, are up de Nile about the implications subsumed by ??dissonance reduction''.

There are folks around like Bowser or Frawley who have made it clearer that if what they are doing has value then t?others horoscopy is akin to the village in search of its idiot. Common sense and not a remarkable amount of Critical Thinking skills needed to arrive on this terra firma.

Nixx,

Regarding your last statement regarding the village searching for its idiot, I'm interested in how you come to your conclusion. Would you mind elaborating?

Thanks,

Phil

Phil wrote:Nixx,

Regarding your last statement regarding the village searching for its idiot, I'm interested in how you come to your conclusion. Would you mind elaborating?

Thanks,

Phil

Not quite sure how to clarify or elaborate. In the shell of a nut Frawley and Bowser articulate, or have done, what most people think or would think were they to have been averagely educated in the Western Rationalist Tradition.

It is complicated by how Horoscopy is still percieved as and labelled as a religion, (act of faith). As such it is implicitly harder to say to someone your faith lacks merit mate. However, as soon as somone writes so and so has the Sun in Aries or the Sun in the 3rd house and these are the implications or outcomes, and another ologer puts the Sun elsewhere, one is saying or writing to the other their neural nets, or the belief components of them, need some urgent attention.