thanks mark for the chart with time.. that is a contentious chart if ever there was one..

Tom wrote:

Mark,

Your chart of the acceptance is 10:47, which is the same time Chris Brennan gave, but when I run it on Solar Fire. I get 6 Aries rising not 12 Pisces. The chart says EDT and that is correct. What gives?

Mark also has 6 Aries for the ascendant. The 12 Pisces is the sidereal chart which I posted on the outer wheel of Hillary Clinton's PM natal chart.

Tom wrote:

I missed that. I can barely read the stuff in the corners. Time to use my reading glasses when I work with my laptop. Thanks for the correction.

I sometimes have a magnifying glass by my laptop or use CTRL+ to temporarily enlarge the screen.

Monday, September 26, 2016
First presidential debate
Location: Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY

I used the hour that was in the site, I am not sure if this can change but I got an ASC in Gemini.

Comparing the charts of the nominations being accepted_

ASC triggers Hillary moon, opposes MC Trump

Transit moon is in Leo, close to Hillary venus in 5th, close to opp Trumps moon in 12th

The sun jupiter conjunction will aspect MC of Hillary, kinda of far from MC of Trump.

I see no indications favouring Trump. To me Hillary will easily win the first debate.

Yuzuru wrote:

I see no indications favouring Trump. To me Hillary will easily win the first debate.

As a U.S. citizen who has been exposed for many years to both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, there's no way in heaven or hell that Trump can win a debate. He knows almost nothing about political situations, whereas Hillary is a consummate professional with a lifetime of experience. I don't see how Trump can do anything in a debate except to make himself look foolish by repeating silly statements like, "I'll build a wall to keep the bad people out."

The Republican party is in big trouble with Donald Trump, but he appeals to the less educated. He's charismatic and seems to speak the language of the lesser folk. It is totally bizarre that Donald Trump has actually become the Republican presidential nominee. Unbelievable, actually. Crazy.

given the way the lunars hit hrc and donald being by birth a full moon eclipse type i think trump will take her apart ...

Therese Hamilton wrote:
The Republican party is in big trouble with Donald Trump, but he appeals to the less educated. He's charismatic and seems to speak the language of the lesser folk. It is totally bizarre that Donald Trump has actually become the Republican presidential nominee. Unbelievable, actually. Crazy.

Less educated lesser folk? Lesser than whom? The bien-pensants perchance? This looks like a political opinion or bias and I wonder if it contravenes forum guidelines so I will try to suppress my own bias against snobbery and look forward to astrological judgements
Matthew

Mjacob wrote:

Less educated lesser folk? Lesser than whom? The bien-pensants perchance? This looks like a political opinion or bias and I wonder if it contravenes forum guidelines so I will try to suppress my own bias against snobbery and look forward to astrological judgements

I knew someone would grab that phrase. "Lesser folk" I meant in the eyes of Donald Trump as well as those who don't have a political voice and are squashed trying to exist on less than minimum wage. Although political commentary has mentioned those who feel drawn to Trump.

Trump magnetically draws people. The politically uninformed don't stop to think that he has never been in the political arena and actually knows very little about working in the political world.

Therese,

I realise your an American and a strong supporter of Clinton. Judging by the astrological Facebook forums I have visited recently feelings are intensely polarised at this election on all sides. Not just between the two major parties but within then.

While your entitled to your strong anti-Trump feelings I would rather not let the forum degenerate into a political talking shop. Hillary Clinton is no angel either and many Americans are fiercely critical of her and the Democratic party hierarchy.

So lets all stick with what we are here to do. Lets discuss the astrology and not the personal merits or faults of the individual candidates. I have seen far too many other astrological discussions going down hill in that way.

Thanks

Mark

all people have biases! what i find interesting is when someone claiming to be an astrologer takes a position for a particular candidate and go on to voice there subjective viewpoints that have nothing to do with astrology... i go back ( in this thread) to be reminded of the astrological prediction of a poster to put it more in perspective of why they might say what they say... it makes sense from a very subjective point of view, but again - not astrological.. i think most folks here at skyscript are very good at reading all of these comments and reading between the lines here too... i support marks comment to keep it astrological.. that is what we are supposed to enjoy discussing!