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97 by Eddy
I don't know whether you remember the 70's
This reminds me of the quote (source unknown):
"If you remember the sixties you weren't there" :).
"Transits are not enough," at least that is what my first astrology teacher told me. Although she was a thoroughgoing modern astrologer, she was right. We need progressions/directions or even solar arcs to give us the big picture. Transits usually trigger them.
On the other side, I find that progressions/directions seperately aren't enough either. All too often progressions and directions pass unnoticed and one often wonders what they indicate or even if they have any effect at all, contrary to the transits which often can be 'felt'. Transits, when they are noticed as particularly strong, therefore can be used to 'localise' progressions and directions in rectification.

Like lovers can only be recognised as such by others when they kiss, give looks or touch eachother, and often the lovers themselves need this to recognise it :o .

98 by daz madrigal
"Transits are not enough," at least that is what my first astrology teacher told me. Although she was a thoroughgoing modern astrologer, she was right. We need progressions/directions or even solar arcs to give us the big picture. Transits usually trigger them.

A good example was the downgraded US credit rating from AAA to AA+

Progressed MO conj USA Sibley MC SQ JU

..I had to dig out an old RC Davison progressions textbook for the MO/JU meaning of "loss of prestige"...triggered by the Mars transit.
Like lovers can only be recognised as such by others when they kiss, give looks or touch eachother, and often the lovers themselves need this to recognise it
Very apt, Eddy although there's often a hidden agenda!

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99 by Tom
On the other side, I find that progressions/directions seperately aren't enough either.
I agree. The idea seems to be to go from the nativity to a broad based prediction (directions, progressions, profections etc) to a more specific method like a solar return and/or lunar return and then to transits. Each step fills in more information.

100 by yuzuru
On the other side, I find that progressions/directions seperately aren't enough either.
But it should also be noted that astrologers direct so many bodies, with so many aspects (specially if you count the minors, the outer planets, asteroids, etc) that practically every couple of days you will have some kind of direction. In this case is no wonder that a lot of directions will come to nothing.

But I personally also look at the profections and solar revolutions for each direction to see the impact and the path of manifestation.
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102 by Eddy
yuzuru wrote:But it should also be noted that astrologers direct so many bodies, with so many aspects (specially if you count the minors, the outer planets, asteroids, etc) that practically every couple of days you will have some kind of direction. In this case is no wonder that a lot of directions will come to nothing.
That's also problematic. For this reason I use in directions only the angles, in progressions only the Sun and the Moon when in an aspect with the progressed Sun and the 'hard aspect' transits. Primary Directions with all planets and the normal aspects already gives much more than one direction per year which in my opinion can blur any rectification. However others then look for accumulations of directions. Same problem with using all planets in progressions, solar arcs makes it even worse because the slow planets get the same speed as the Sun.

103 by SGFoxe
with o's horoscope you get both -- secondary progs and big transit ... namely ... at end of october o's progressed full moon matures/sun/moon 0 libra shortly thereafter, p-moon further progresses to conjunct t-uranus in aries ...

I would really like Curt M to comment on this, since he is closely contemporary (1 day younger) than O ... and has gone through the progression (and transit) already ...
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