Andrew, I think we need a couple more in Villa's goal.

It's 2:1 after the first half.

ManU - Villa 4 - 1! You got your 5 goals there, Janis!
WestBrom - Cardiff 3 - 3! Two goals in overtime!

No point in backing WBA and points for the Underdog!
That's fair. Not quite for Cardiff.
Didn't quite get it, but good team work!

Sunday:

Fulham - Everton, 13.30 BST
Odds: 4,90 3,75 1,75
Asc 7LE23, MC 16AR22, Moon 6AR18, POF 3LE57
Day Sun, Hour Mars - radical by powers

The Lord of the Hour is very powerful by disposition. I cant see much in the chart and want to go with the favourite. Is a 1-0 handicap at 2,95:1 worth trying?

Liverpool - Tottenham, 16.00 BST
Odds: 1,43 4,90 7,25
Asc 2VI32, MC 22TA21, Moon 7AR46, POF 0VI28
Day Sum Hour Venus - radical by triplicity

Noting the type of triplicity and Saturn on the IC, the question is how long Liverpool's running streak will last? I feel like a draw.

The combination with the 1-0 handicap against Everton is priced at 14,4:1.
Any thoughts?

I agree on Fullham v Everton. A one goal handicap seems reasonable.

Liverpool v Tottenham has been giving me problems for a few days I want to move away from the home favourite, but how far? We are just before a New Moon and that often makes things a bit tricky. The Moon is combust, after all. It is also applying to the square of L7 and also to Uranus (although I would have liked that to be a bit tighter for a real upset). I have been debating a draw against a Tottenham win. But still can't decide.

Thank you for the feedback, GB.

I don't know whether to go with the gamble or go safe. The gamble is more exciting. Things rarely go according to order, which means something should happen within a day that moves away from the favourite by odds.

Radical by triplicity could be a weighing factor, and Venus, LHr, is cadent.

PS. Just want to pass this on from horary work; the waning moon often appears to show a state of reluctancy. I don't know what that should mean in terms of football.

I notice in the Fulham - Everton game, Saturn, L7, casts his antiscia to the angle of the 7th, who he disposes. This could be an indication of the virtue of the guests.

In Liverpool - Spurs I spy that the Moon is in a trine with the antiscia of the MC - this should not be enough for the victory of the favourite - but maybe save against defeat?
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Oh, by the way, I decided to play 'safe' today with a simple win for Everton (no handicap). If this goes in, it's good with fresh money the right way. The games are played seperately, so there's time to decide on Liverpool - Spurs later.

Fulham - Everton 1-3
Liverpool - Spurs 4-0

Break even today. The winnings from Everton were wasted on a draw in Liverpool's game. I can't see 4-0 in the chart, but at this level it's almost as if something is at work apart from the fixture.

Anyhow, I'll wait to here if anyone else has something to say.
I hope GB went for the Everton handicap and stayed away from the other one.

Andrew Bevan wrote: I hope GB went for the Everton handicap and stayed away from the other one.

Yes, I did go for the Everton handicap, but no, it was in a double with a Liverpool - Tottenham draw.

As some of the readers of this forum will know, I notice patterns in results - although sometimes I see them when they are not really there Today there were two Premier League matches and one other "High Profile" match: the Johnson's Paint Trophy final at Wembley (for lower division clubs). All three matches had four goals and the favourites won:

Fulham 1 - 3 Everton
Liverpool 4 - 0 Tottenham
Chesterfield 1 - 3 Peterborough

It probably means nothing ...

I think it is worth mustering our forces one direction rather than many different at the same time.

For me it is clear that each team has their own ruler rather than a random one, ie. a planet happening to rule either ASC or DSC (depending on whether you put on ASC the favourite or the home team).

I have prepared tables for almost all major soccer leagues in Europe, South America, North America and some Asian countries. Whoever wishes to have them may receive.

I am not saying that the rulers displayed in the tables are correct ones, but they serve a good starting point for further researches (until you feel confident that you have found the correct ones).

I suggest focusing more attention on the charts of real upsets (like Crystal Palace - Chelsea, odds 9:00) do find out particular for indications what make such charts different.

As regards Liverpool - Tottenham, I believe that the clue is the New Moon in Aries, ruled by Mars (Liverpool). When both luminaries are in dignities of one planet, it is always a strong fortification. Mars was in a stake of the lunation. Saturn (Tottenham) is rather weak (angular but in a cadent sign) in the chart and in the 8th from the lunation. Venus, Lhr, was separating from both Mars and Saturn. Saturn in Scorpio (believed to rule over Liverpool) was literally in the hands of the Reds.

From a viewpoint of soccer, it was a must win for Liverpool to continue the fight for the title.

Janis, I agree about looking at upsets. It is all very well posting analysis before a match - that is important in getting your ideas clear, but when the result is not as expected we need to find out why.

Clearly Crystal Palace beating Chelsea on Saturday needs explanation. I suspect we need the team significators for this. Not L1 and L7 but specific team rulers. Also, Arsenal holding Man City to a draw was a major upset.

What team significators would you have used for these two matches?

I use Jupiter for Chelsea and Jupiter/Moon (by association with the name) for Crystal Palace. I hate games when both teams have the they same significators, but unfortunately there are only 7 planets. It is unavoidable that many teams have the same significators. If there is a big favourite, I look only at the condition of their significator and leave the underdog without a sig. If teams are equally I try to use the actual colours if available.

I apply different rules regarding the big favourites and different regarding the underdogs, and a little bit different ones than regarding the underdogs - regarding middle teams.

I thought Crystal Palace would draw against Chelsea but I was not expecting an upset. I look at the condition of the sig, its dispositor and their receptions with the lord of day, the hour, dispositor of POF, the luminaries, their dispositor and for big favourities, if close to a new or full moon (eclipse), also the receptions with the lord of the lunation or the eclipse. The significator in the fall of the ruler of lunation, eclipse is always an ill omen for favourites. Here Jupiter, the sig of Chelsea, is in Cancer, the sign of Mars fall, who rules the first lunation after the Aries ingress. Cancer is also associated with Chelsea, as indicated in the table and also Andrew has similar thoughts, was in the bounds and decanate of Mars, the ruler of the lunation. If we use Mars as the ruler of the water triplicity by day, then it is the almuten of the place of the Moon.

Regarding negative receptions with eclipses, yesterday there was a game in Spain La Liga, Valencia (Saturn/Sun) - Getafe (Jupiter). Odds for Getafe 9.00

30.03.2014, 20:00 CEST

Coordinates 39 N 28 29 000W21 30, ASC 06LI 10, hour was Saturn making the chart radical by triplicity and exaltation. The game ended 1:3. The lunation was in the sign of Saturn's fall; Saturn himself was in the 8th sign from the lunation.

For Arsenal I always use Mars, for Manchester City always Venus. Both planets were in the same triplicity (it is often an indication for draw). I did take into consideration that both planets were aversion to the rising sign and there was a partile opposition of Mercury, L1 and dispositor of POF, to POF, but unfortunately backed Manchester City. I believed it would a good bet considering that it is a must win game. At the beginning of the season, or if there was a different situation in the table, I for sure would have backed draw.

GB, I will forward you the updated table for Premier League. If you wish to have others as well, just let me know.

Regards
Janis

Oh dear, I ended putting my money on WestHam this evening and then discovered I'd miscalculated the chart. Oh well, it's a right mix-up anyway. Let's take a look at it:

Sunderland - WestHam, 20.00 BST
Odds: 2,05 3,40 3,75
Asc 15LI18, MC 21CN01, Moon 24AR05 POF 28LI24
Day Moon, Hour Venus - radical

The Moon is Lady of the 10th and in the 7th, coming out of the Sun's beams and is applying to the sextile of Venus, who is Lady of the Hour. Mars, L7, is in the 1st and square the MC through signs of Long Ascension. I like the fact that Libra on the Asc indicates West.

I think this chart could be read in several ways.