Which is better, vedic or western?
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:40 pm
(Please note: This discussion has been moved to Philosophy and Science from the Mundane Section).
...when it comes to accuracy of predictions, especially in mundane matters.
Shouldn't both systems predict the same outcomes, accurately, if they were really that accurate at all. We know the zodiacs are different, but astrology is astrology.
Some western astrologers claim that, due to a lack of publicly known, accurate birth times, that predicting the outcome of political leaders is trecherous. James_M cites that the real birth time of politicians like Benjamin Netenyahu and Hillary Clinton are typically not known and therefore, making predictions based on speculative charts is not easy or impossible. Maybe Clinton and Netenyahu use astrologers beyond the scenes and therefore, withhold their birth times from us, just like Hitler once used astrology to time his military attacks?
That said, I met a genuine, young vedic astrologer back in 2003 who made a prediction about my own mother, and her eventual demise, even though the birth time was suspect and her western natal chart had no "smoking gun aspects" pointing out her demise. So, why is it that Vedic astrologers can make accurate predictions, even with faulty birth times. and western astrologers cannot, even with verifiable birth times.
Further to this, will Vedic astrology eventually lose its prominence in Indian society, as the battle between fate versus free will, ramps up, and as India becomes a more economically properous nation. Some experts predict China and India will become the world's number one and two economies, by 2042, overtaking the United States of America, Japan, and some European countries.
Vedic astrology appears to thrive in countries where there are impoverished economic conditions, but also, in patriarchal societies where the male is perceived as "top dog" and women are there to serve men, serve them dinner, etc.
Therefore, is vedic astrology essentially a "cheerleader' for male Indian supremacy over women?
Meanwhile, concepts like arranged marriages are still very much in vogue in Indian society and if Indians wish to evolve, economically, they may have to curtail such out-dated activities, or else, North Americans may not do future business with you? An arranged marriage can often feature a teenaged young woman being assigned to an adult Indian male, by her parents or family, which is akin to child slavery.
In any event, even though I am of "Asian" descent, I am opposed to adult men marrying teenaged brides, or men sleeping with teenagers, as it seems like a backwards form of slavery and servitude that is detrimental to women, generally, including Indian women.
Although very interesting, vedic astrology cannot appeal to me, as it does a roaring business with the arranged marriage business, and therefore, I cannot support, either, just like I cannot buy or wear clothes made in Asian sweatshops by underaged children. And, it has to be ethically right, and not just about the money.
S.
...when it comes to accuracy of predictions, especially in mundane matters.
Shouldn't both systems predict the same outcomes, accurately, if they were really that accurate at all. We know the zodiacs are different, but astrology is astrology.
Some western astrologers claim that, due to a lack of publicly known, accurate birth times, that predicting the outcome of political leaders is trecherous. James_M cites that the real birth time of politicians like Benjamin Netenyahu and Hillary Clinton are typically not known and therefore, making predictions based on speculative charts is not easy or impossible. Maybe Clinton and Netenyahu use astrologers beyond the scenes and therefore, withhold their birth times from us, just like Hitler once used astrology to time his military attacks?
That said, I met a genuine, young vedic astrologer back in 2003 who made a prediction about my own mother, and her eventual demise, even though the birth time was suspect and her western natal chart had no "smoking gun aspects" pointing out her demise. So, why is it that Vedic astrologers can make accurate predictions, even with faulty birth times. and western astrologers cannot, even with verifiable birth times.
Further to this, will Vedic astrology eventually lose its prominence in Indian society, as the battle between fate versus free will, ramps up, and as India becomes a more economically properous nation. Some experts predict China and India will become the world's number one and two economies, by 2042, overtaking the United States of America, Japan, and some European countries.
Vedic astrology appears to thrive in countries where there are impoverished economic conditions, but also, in patriarchal societies where the male is perceived as "top dog" and women are there to serve men, serve them dinner, etc.
Therefore, is vedic astrology essentially a "cheerleader' for male Indian supremacy over women?
Meanwhile, concepts like arranged marriages are still very much in vogue in Indian society and if Indians wish to evolve, economically, they may have to curtail such out-dated activities, or else, North Americans may not do future business with you? An arranged marriage can often feature a teenaged young woman being assigned to an adult Indian male, by her parents or family, which is akin to child slavery.
In any event, even though I am of "Asian" descent, I am opposed to adult men marrying teenaged brides, or men sleeping with teenagers, as it seems like a backwards form of slavery and servitude that is detrimental to women, generally, including Indian women.
Although very interesting, vedic astrology cannot appeal to me, as it does a roaring business with the arranged marriage business, and therefore, I cannot support, either, just like I cannot buy or wear clothes made in Asian sweatshops by underaged children. And, it has to be ethically right, and not just about the money.
S.