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Linchi wrote:

Steve, my work "Microastrology" is here:

https://ia800109.us.archive.org/19/item ... rology.pdf

Thanks linchi. Your 421 page research link is impressive, although I have only looked at about 25% of the chart examples. Linchi, I am basically an event orientated astrologer using different eclectic techniques in my work. Many of your techniques I have not learned yet. But I do understand how to apply simply the H256 transits to the H256 Natal Chart and feel this has much potential for me implementing as a new tool for my personal work related to accurately forecasting the outcome of various scheduled events in the future.

So far, harmonic transiting aspects is the only technique I fully understand. I have some questions:

1: When I am working with an AA rated chart with a known possible scheduled eventful day in the future, but not seeing any first harmonic benefic partile (1 degree or less) transiting 0, 45, 90, 135, 180 aspects, but then seeing several partile benefic transiting aspects in the H256, would you consider this a highly reliable benefic indicator for a possible schedule 1 day event in the future? In other words, how reliable do you consider several partile transiting benefic aspects in the H256 for a particular scheduled day in the future for a possible significant benefic life incident?

2: When I see partile H256 aspects of the transiting Sun to r Sun or r Moon for a given day in the future, along with several other partile benefic transiting aspects, do you consider these transiting partile Sun aspects increase % for significant benefic day incident?

Thanks

SteveS wrote: 1: When I am working with an AA rated chart with a known possible scheduled eventful day in the future, but not seeing any first harmonic benefic partile (1 degree or less) transiting 0, 45, 90, 135, 180 aspects, but then seeing several partile benefic transiting aspects in the H256, would you consider this a highly reliable benefic indicator for a possible schedule 1 day event in the future? In other words, how reliable do you consider several partile transiting benefic aspects in the H256 for a particular scheduled day in the future for a possible significant benefic life incident?

With one condition the answer is yes. When the returns and progressions are also beneficial, the transits will also be beneficial, if not, then the transits will not bring what is expected.

2: When I see partile H256 aspects of the transiting Sun to r Sun or r Moon for a given day in the future, along with several other partile benefic transiting aspects, do you consider these transiting partile Sun aspects increase % for significant benefic day incident?

Progressed and transit sun always stand at the significant position when important things happen in life. Especially when progressed sun forms exactly harmonic with the natal sun. It depends on how the other planet pictures are, if they are positive, the sun is also positive, but if they are negative, the sun is also negative.


Greetings

For example :


Joe Biden

On 27 August 2008 at 8:19 PM in Denver, CO (Nominated for Democratic Party candidate for VP)

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Biden,_Joe


Lunar Return :




Transit :

Without considering any astrological factors, fundamentally, I don’t see how the Democrats can lose the Nov 3 2020 election with their promised economic platform they are running on vs Trump. But, when I consider the malefic H256 partile transits including the TNPs to Biden’s H256 Natal Chart confined to such a short timing window (a couple of hours) on election night, Biden should not only lose this election, but lose by an unexpected large margin, IMO. The majority of political pundits in the US are certainly not expecting Biden to lose by a large margin. If Biden happens to lose by a large margin will be one of the determining factors if I incorporate H256 transits to H256 Natal Charts in my astrological practice for possible outstanding incidents in a native’s life for a known important scheduled day in the native’s future.

Linchi, I have been studying astrology for 40 years, and without a doubt your astrological methodology backed-upped by sound detailed research is the most unique original astrological methodology with “Microastrology??? I have ever attempted to analyze. I wish like you we had better computer tools to calculate all of your methodology. If so, it could one day offer a major breakthrough for astrologers around the world. I look forward to attempting to further learn from your astrological methodology. Thanks.

SteveS wrote: Linchi, I have been studying astrology for 40 years, and without a doubt your astrological methodology backed-upped by sound detailed research is the most unique original astrological methodology with “Microastrology??? I have ever attempted to analyze. I wish like you we had better computer tools to calculate all of your methodology. If so, it could one day offer a major breakthrough for astrologers around the world. I look forward to attempting to further learn from your astrological methodology. Thanks.

Thank you, Steve.
I discovered this astrological methodology around 2007-2008, published it in 2015, and have been developing it ever since. If we had suitable software, we would have researched other topics that astrologers are not yet able to examine. This methodology is complicated and structured logically. With this methodology we can investigate a second frame of time.

I have given an example above, always what important happens when progression/return sun with natural sun form exactly harmonic. There is another rule that says that when progressed sun forms exactly harmonic with other progressed sun ( secondary-secondary converse or tertiary-tertiary converse ..etc) or with return sun (lunar or planet-return), something important happens in life. I want to give an example to illustrate this.


Harris, Kamala

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Harris,_Kamala

Tertiary for 3 Nov 2020 at 23:30

Tertiary Sun = 0° 1' 23''




Minor 3 Nov 2020 at 23:30

Minor Sun = 0° 43' 29'' - 0° 42' 11'' = 0° 1' 18''




There is a 5 second difference between tertiary and minor sun. With Harmonic 4096 we can find out when they are exact.

If we look at with harmonic 4096, we see that they are 4 Nov 2020 at 00:15 exactly.

Linchi wrote:

With this methodology we can investigate a second frame of time.

Indeed, and most interesting. Correct me if I am in error with my thinking, but your examples are expressing a precise time frame for important events in native’s lives with once in a lifetime precise symmetrical aspects (0,01???) with various charts with the Sun, correct? Of course the Sun is the great timing chronometer in our solar system for significant events.

Also correct me if I am wrong here, I see on election night Nov 3 2020 11:30 PM EST, Biden has H256 transiting Sun in partile symmetrical partile 0, 90, 180 aspects with transiting Hades, Saturn, Vulcanus—all in symmetrical partile 0, 90, 180 aspect with his r H256 Saturn. I am not entirely sure, but doesn’t this have very high geometrical probability with partile aspects being a once in lifetime H256 transiting event of these factors with his r H256 Saturn?

Linchi wrote:

There is another rule that says that when progressed sun forms exactly harmonic with other progressed sun (secondary-secondary converse or tertiary-tertiary converse, etc) or with return sun (lunar or planet-return), something important happens in life.

Is this your developed rule or a rule that has been taught to you from books/person?

Linchi wrote:

I want to give an example to illustrate this. Harris, Kamala
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Harris,_Kamala
Tertiary for 3 Nov 2020 at 23:30 Tertiary Sun = 0° 1' 23''

Most interesting Linchi!

Linchi wrote:

There is a 5 second difference between tertiary and minor sun. With Harmonic 4096 we can find out when they are exact. If we look at with harmonic 4096, we see that they are 4 Nov 2020 at 00:15 exactly.

Would not we need to interpret this Moon/Jupiter = Sun for K. Harris as highly benefic for the Dem’s winning the 2020 election?

SteveS wrote:Correct me if I am in error with my thinking, but your examples are expressing a precise time frame for important events in native’s lives with once in a lifetime precise symmetrical aspects (0,01???) with various charts with the Sun, correct? Of course the Sun is the great timing chronometer in our solar system for significant events.

Yes, it is correct.

Also correct me if I am wrong here, I see on election night Nov 3 2020 11:30 PM EST, Biden has H256 transiting Sun in partile symmetrical partile 0, 90, 180 aspects with transiting Hades, Saturn, Vulcanus—all in symmetrical partile 0, 90, 180 aspect with his r H256 Saturn. I am not entirely sure, but doesn’t this have very high geometrical probability with partile aspects being a once in lifetime H256 transiting event of these factors with his r H256 Saturn?

For the time 23:30 it is correct. But the time must be exactly determined. If we take 23:20 or 23:40, then the sun has other planetary pictures. Is it a reason that you choose the time 23:30 ?
We cannot always think negatively when we see Saturn. I think the planets have positive and negative meanings, depending on which houses rule, where and how they stand in natal.

Linchi wrote:

There is another rule that says that when progressed sun forms exactly harmonic with other progressed sun (secondary-secondary converse or tertiary-tertiary converse, etc) or with return sun (lunar or planet-return), something important happens in life.

Is this your developed rule or a rule that has been taught to you from books/person?

It has come to my attention during my researches. In my works I share that I think it is important.

Would not we need to interpret this Moon/Jupiter = Sun for K. Harris as highly benefic for the Dem’s winning the 2020 election?

In harmonic 4096 you have to be very careful, if you consider the moon, that the birth time is corrected to the second. Kamala Harris would have e.g. for the birthtime 21:27:52 tertiary SU = natal MO/PL, because moon moves very fast.

Greetings

Linchi asked:

Is it a reason that you choose the time 23:30?

Normally, the election is determined approximately this time. With H256 transits, what is transiting sun rate of motion?
Linchi wrote:

We cannot always think negatively when we see Saturn. I think the planets have positive and negative meanings, depending on which houses rule, where and how they stand in natal.

I understand, but with H256 t Hades partile conjunct Biden’s H256 Saturn, there is no other way with Witte’s Rules for Planetary Pictures (Keywords) I can interpret this partile transit on election night except negatively. Do you not agree?
Linchi wrote:

It has come to my attention during my researches. In my works I share that I think it is important.

OK, good enough for me with your detailed research.
Linchi wrote:

In harmonic 4096 you have to be very careful, if you consider the moon, that the birth time is corrected to the second. Kamala Harris would have e.g. for the birthtime 21:27:52 tertiary SU = natal MO/PL, because moon moves very fast.

Of course, my mind is still not use to thinking in terms of higher harmonics, and with moon I see what you mean.
Thanks

SteveS wrote: Normally, the election is determined approximately this time. With H256 transits, what is transiting sun rate of motion?

I would say up to 6-7 minutes at the most.

I understand, but with H256 t Hades partile conjunct Biden’s H256 Saturn, there is no other way with Witte’s Rules for Planetary Pictures (Keywords) I can interpret this partile transit on election night except negatively. Do you not agree?

I would accept if also progressions,returns and other negative planet pictures confirm it. Only with transit and only one planet is not enough, I think.

Greetings

Linchi wrote:

I would say up to 6-7 minutes at the most.

In this case, t H256 Sun on election night will only take on very significant meaning to me if it becomes obvious to Biden he has lost his election bid when t Sun is partile to a very significant planetary picture on election night.
Linchi wrote:

I would accept if also progressions, returns and other negative planet pictures confirm it. Only with transit and only one planet is not enough, I think.

I agree and understand linchi. Here is a very significant multiple Uranian partile transiting planetary picture for Biden on election night 11:30 PM EST using the Krishnamurti Zodiac. This specific transiting planetary picture only occurs once in his entire life, and coincidentally it happens at a time in his life on an election night for President at a time during the night when election results are normally known.

Biden’s H256 Natal Saturn 00,11 Virgo
Transiting H256 Hades 00,37 Virgo
Transiting H256 Saturn 00,48 Sag
Transiting H256 Vulcanus 01,01 Pisces
Transiting H256 Sun 00,32 Pisces
Also:
Transiting H256 Neptune 07,43 Scorpio
Biden’s H256 Natal Sun 07,26 Scorpio

Alfred Witte’s, the originator of the Hamburg School of Astrology, wrote in his book “Rules for Planetary Pictures" for Hades + Saturn:

Melancholy. Trouble. Sadness. Serious obstacles. Serious loss.

Vulcanus in the Hamburg School (Uranian Astrology) symbolizes anything to do with “Mighty.??? IMO, there is no other way to interpret this huge Uranian Symmetrical Transiting Planetary Picture for Biden involving his Natal Saturn-- but a loss to be clearly known on election night.

I will add: I am no political pundit, but I do understand America is seriously divided, politically. It is very difficult for me to believe Biden can lose this election by wide margins for a serious “election loss??? with the economic platform the Democrats are running on vs the Republicans. With my novice understanding of Microastrology & the Hamburg School of Astrology, I consider this transiting planetary picture a fair test for the Hamburg School of Astrology combined with some of the principles of “Microastrology.??? I am simply testing new techniques for astrology to see if I want to include then in my astrological tool box.

SteveS wrote: Alfred Witte’s, the originator of the Hamburg School of Astrology, wrote in his book “Rules for Planetary Pictures" for Hades + Saturn:

Melancholy. Trouble. Sadness. Serious obstacles. Serious loss.

Vulcanus in the Hamburg School (Uranian Astrology) symbolizes anything to do with “Mighty.??? IMO, there is no other way to interpret this huge Uranian Symmetrical Transiting Planetary Picture for Biden involving his Natal Saturn-- but a loss to be clearly known on election night.

Yes, you are right

I consider this transiting planetary picture a fair test for the Hamburg School of Astrology combined with some of the principles of “Microastrology.???

We could deduce the following :

Hamburg School does not work with harmonic 256. They work with harmonic 16. In harmonic 16 however, there is not this planet picture ; t Saturn = t Hades = t Vulcanus = r Saturn. So if Biden wins, only my H 256 fails, but not Hamburg School.

linchi wrote:

Hamburg School does not work with harmonic 256. They work with harmonic 16. In harmonic 16 however, there is not this planet picture ; t Saturn = t Hades = t Vulcanus = r Saturn. So if Biden wins, only my H 256 fails, but not Hamburg School.

An excellent point, I agree. Only if Biden loses by a wide margin will I consider together the Hamburg School and "Microastrology" with H256 transits to Natal the only two astrological systems I have encountered which clearly symbolized with specifics a landslide defeat for Biden.