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Joseph Biden`s Birth Time Correction



My correction is 08:29:39

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Biden,_Joe

We start with the harmonic 4096 if it is only 2-3 minutes of corrections. If the time of birth is incorrect by more than two or three minutes, we will notice it during the correction process.

First rule, always use certain planet pictures for certain events.
e.g.:
Mars/Saturn ----> death
Venus/Node -----> marriage
Venus/Neptune --> separation

Second rule : These planet pictures in Harmonic 4096 must be accurate up to 2 seconds, the more accurate the better.

Marriage 27 August 1966 in Skaneateles (Neilia Hunter)

With the birth time 08:29:39 the lunar and solar Venus with the natal Venus/Node are exact to the second.


natal Venus/Node = 0° 2' 35'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 16''
solar Venus = 0° 5' 13'' - (0° 1' 19'' + 0° 2' 38'' )= 0° 1' 16''
lunar Venus = 0° 1' 15''

inner circle is natal
middle circle is solar
outer circle is lunar




If we take the birth time back and forth a minute at a time, this accuracy will no longer be possible.

With the birth time 08:31:00 :

natal Venus/Node = 0° 2' 37'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 18''
solar Venus = 0° 0' 00'' + 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 19''
lunar Venus = 0° 1' 20''


With the birth time 08:32:00 :

natal Venus/Node = 0° 2' 38'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 19''
solar Venus = 0° 0' 02'' + 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 21''
lunar Venus = 0° 1' 23''

As we see above the discrepancy increases with time.


Now we take back the birth time.

With the birth time 08:28:00 :

natal Venus/Node = 0° 2' 32'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 13''
solar Venus = 0° 5' 09'' - (0° 1' 19'' + 0° 2' 38'' )= 0° 1' 12''
lunar Venus = 0° 1' 10''


With the birth time 08:27:00 :

natal Venus/Node = 0° 2' 31'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 1' 12''
solar Venus = 0° 5' 07'' - (0° 1' 19'' + 0° 2' 38'' )= 0° 1' 10''
lunar Venus = 0° 1' 07''

The further we take the birth time back, the greater the discrepancy.


In addition with the 08:29:39 birth time :

solar Venus/Node = natal Mars/Saturn ( because his wife died in a car accident during their marriage)

solar Venus/Node = 0° 4' 59''
natal Mars/Saturn = 0° 4' 59''


Third rule : For every other event we have associated with a planetary picture, it must be exact to the second.
We do not take the events that we have not associated with any planetary picture. For all we take the same planet picture for the same event.


Death of Mate 18 December 1972 in Hockessin (Wife Neilia Hunter Biden killed, car accident)
Death of Child 18 December 1972 in Hockessin (Daughter killed, car accident, aged one year)

Venus/Neptune ----> separation

Lunar Return

lunar Sun = lunar Venus/Neptune = natal Venus/Neptune

lunar Sun = 0° 0' 16'' - 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 2' 54''
lunar Venus/Neptune = 0° 2' 54''
natal Venus/Neptune = 0° 2' 15'' + 0° 0' 40'' = 0° 2' 55'' (because here natal Venus/Neptune is the midpoint of two harmonic points, we add half of 0° 1' 19'')





The further back or forward we take the birth time, the greater the discrepancy, as we see below.

With the birth time 08:31:00 :

lunar Venus/Neptune = 0° 2' 56''
lunar Sun = 0° 0' 19'' + 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 2' 57''

With the birth time 08:32:00 :

lunar Venus/Neptune = 0° 2' 57''
lunar Sun = 0° 0' 21'' + 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 2' 59''


With the birth time 08:28:00 :

lunar Venus/Neptune = 0° 2' 52''
lunar Sun = 0° 0' 13'' + 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 2' 51''

With the birth time 08:27:00 :

lunar Venus/Neptune = 0° 2' 50''
lunar Sun = 0° 0' 10'' + 0° 2' 38'' = 0° 2' 48''

Note : So that we can find the opposition and square positions, the values were either subtracted or added. The values that are subtracted or added :
Harmonic 4096 : 0° 2' 38'' and 0° 1' 19''


How to check and correct birth times can be read here :

https://ia600705.us.archive.org/3/items ... ection.pdf

Liinchi wrote:

My correction is 08:29:39

Given the lack of precision in general astrological practice, this means we have been using the correct birth time for Joe Biden all along (8:30 AM).

Therese Hamilton wrote:Liinchi wrote:

My correction is 08:29:39

Given the lack of precision in general astrological practice, this means we have been using the correct birth time for Joe Biden all along (8:30 AM).

Yes, Therese.

I have not written above but vimsottari dasa also confirms that the birth time must be approx 08:30

Death of Child 18 December 1972 in Hockessin (Daughter killed, car accident, aged one year)
Death of Mate 18 December 1972 in Hockessin (Wife Neilia Hunter Biden killed, car accident)

For the birth time 08:30:00
Vimsottari Dasa : Moon-Mars-Venus-Jupiter

Jupiter-period was between 17 December 1972 - 22 December 1972



For the birth time 08:28:00

Jupiter-period was between 20 December 1972 - 25 December 1972


For the birth time 08:33:00

Jupiter-period was between 12 December 1972 - 17 December 1972


Krishnamurti Ayanamsa
Definition of year in dasas : True sidereal solar years

I thought it would be good to copy this post here on the sidereal forum since the solar return supports the 8:30 AM birth time for Biden.

Biden's solar return for 1972, which is also the first 40 day ennead for the year, describes the sudden loss of his wife, Neilia, and his infant daughter Naomi in a car crash. The sidereal chart uses the Krishnamurti ayanamsa, but the house positions and planetary contacts would be exactly the same with a precession corrected tropical chart. Cusp lines mark the centers of houses. The solar return ascendant and houses are on the outer wheel, the natal chart on the inner wheel.



The MC degree degree of the chart is the degree of natal Uranus on Biden's natal 7th cusp.

Transiting Mars at 9 Lib 27 from the third house gives its full (8th house aspect) to natal Uranus at 9 Tau 49, loss of wife in crash.

Natal 8th lord, SR transiting Mercury at the nadir at 17 Sco 29 opposes natal Saturn 17 Tau 0 at the top of the chart.

Saturn is the only natal planet in Biden's chart located in a Moon's nakshatra, the Moon being the evil badhaka planet for Scorpio ascendant as Linchi has pointed out. The female child who died was Biden's third child which comes under the 9th house of Cancer ruled by the Moon. (5th is first child, 7th second child, 9th third child) Natally the Moon is on the 6th house cusp (illness and misfortune) with Fortuna.

The third partile position in the chart is Fortuna at 13 Ari 39 (with natal Moon) in the degree of the 9th cusp equally measured from the ascendant degree of 13 Leo 50. Natal Fortuna and the Moon are disposited by Mars; Transiting SR Mars from the third house (travel, transportation) opposes natal Moon by one degree.

These relatively precise solar return contacts linked to the ascendant and MC degrees strongly support an 8:30 time of birth for Biden (rectified by Linchi to 8:29:39).

Transiting Jupiter is close to cusp 5, but in a star/nakshatra of Venus. SR Venus is sandwiched between Mars and Uranus in the 3rd house.