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1960 Valdivia earthquake - Taurus Ingress


The 1960 Valdivia earthquake (Spanish: Terremoto de Valdivia) or the Great Chilean earthquake (Gran terremoto de Chile) on 22 May 1960 was the most powerful earthquake ever recorded. Various studies have placed it at 9.4–9.6 on the moment magnitude scale. It occurred in the afternoon (19:11 GMT, 15:11 local time), and lasted for approximately 10 minutes. The resulting tsunamis affected southern Chile, Hawaii, Japan, the Philippines, eastern New Zealand, southeast Australia, and the Aleutian Islands.

UTC time : 1960-05-22 19:11:14

Coordinates : 38° 14′ 24″ S, 73° 3′ 0″ W

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Valdivia_earthquake


Harmonic 16

Taurus Ingress : 13.05.1960 20:22:57 local time.

All earthquakes planets SU,JU,SA and KR form planetary picture.

SU/JU = SA/KR = AC/SA



Transit

Harmonic 16

Taurus Ingress : 13.05.1960 20:22:57 local time.
Earthquake : On 22 May 1960 at 15:11:14 local time

and they are activated by transit sun.


t SU = r SU/JU = r SA/KR = r AC/SA

Differences are less than five minutes.





Secondary Progression

Harmonic 4096

pSU/KR =p JU/SA = r JU






Alfred Witte's Kronos - Earthquakes :

https://ia803202.us.archive.org/30/item ... quakes.pdf

Linchi wrote:

1923 Great KantM Earthquake - Leo Ingress
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This is a small proof that leo-Ingress is also suitable for mundane events

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1960 Valdivia earthquake - Taurus Ingress

Harmonic 16

Taurus Ingress : 13.05.1960 20:22:57 local time.

All earthquakes planets SU,JU,SA and KR form planetary picture.
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(...Also referencing all planetary pictures as noted in these two earthquake posts...)

So this experiment with Krishnamurti monthly solar ingresses is proving to show earthquake patterns. This is possibly a new discovery then? With your methods, is either the Capricorn ingress or Taurus/Leo ingresses more clear in showing earthquakes or are they equal?

I'm not sure (from my limited work with ingresses) if monthly solar ingresses apply to all mundane events or only certain types of events like earthquakes.

Therese Hamilton wrote:So this experiment with Krishnamurti monthly solar ingresses is proving to show earthquake patterns. This is possibly a new discovery then? With your methods, is either the Capricorn ingress or Taurus/Leo ingresses more clear in showing earthquakes or are they equal?

I don't know if we can call it new discovery.because the planet pictures for the earthquake from me and montly ingresses from you works well, as the examples show. In my opinion the montly Ingress I have studied so far, equal.

I'm not sure (from my limited work with ingresses) if monthly solar ingresses apply to all mundane events or only certain types of events like earthquakes.

In my opinion the ingresses may show not only earthquakes but any mundane events, as natal horoshope shows all the events in human life. It is important that we know what to look for and where. We need to find the planetary pictures for different mundane events.

Linchi wrote:

I don't know if we can call it new discovery because the planet pictures for the earthquake from me and monthly ingresses from you works well, as the examples show. In my opinion the monthly Ingress I have studied so far, equal.

I meant that using monthly ingresses for events (rather than only the Capricorn or cardinal ingresses) was possibly a new discovery. The planetary pictures belong only to you, and are rather extraordinary in that they carry through in so many cases.

In my opinion the ingresses may show not only earthquakes but any mundane events, as natal horoscope shows all the events in human life. It is important that we know what to look for and where. We need to find the planetary pictures for different mundane events.

Then I look forward to your future posts which may use monthly solar ingresses for various events! This is exciting research, and these monthly ingress dates seem to be the best research yet that supports an ayanamsa for the average astrologer. We don't need any fancy software to compute ingress dates and times for different ayanamsas.

Therese Hamilton wrote:I meant that using monthly ingresses for events (rather than only the Capricorn or cardinal ingresses) was possibly a new discovery.

Yes, you are right, Therese. The astrologers have, as far as I know, used only cardinal ingresses until now. Mostly astrologers use only Aries ingress, I think.

Then I look forward to your future posts which may use monthly solar ingresses for various events! This is exciting research, and these monthly ingress dates seem to be the best research yet that supports an ayanamsa for the average astrologer. We don't need any fancy software to compute ingress dates and times for different ayanamsas.

For the Ayanamsa, since I use Krishnamurti, I don't think about it anymore. To find exact Ayanamsa to the second, we need more advanced software. When I see what the software developers focus on, I have no hope that this can happen in the near future.
Next days I will prepare some other Mundane events as soon as I find the time.

Linchi wrote:

For the Ayanamsa, since I use Krishnamurti, I don't think about it anymore. To find exact Ayanamsa to the second, we need more advanced software. When I see what the software developers focus on, I have no hope that this can happen in the near future.

For the Krishnamurti ayanamsa, what range of seconds (from 47) do you suggest for its precise accuracy range?

Research astrologer Richard Houck wrote in The Astrology of Death (Groundswell Press, 1994):

"[The Krishnamurti] value is derived by subtracting 5 minutes and 47 seconds from the Lahiri ayanamsa. Before I ever heard of Krishnamurti I had reached the point where I was subtracting 5 minutes and 10 seconds from Lahiri, and this is what I still do to this day since no case has driven me to consider a wider deviation." (p. 39)

Although it's one degree off, it's interesting that in his research Donald Bradley (of the Fagan school) adjusted the SVP (synetic vernal point) ayanamsa from Lahiri by 6 minutes which is close to the Krishnamurti adjustment of 5 minutes 47 seconds. This makes the difference between SVP and Krishnamurti 59 minutes. This is why Fagan school astrologers can see relevant patterns in solar ingress charts.

These charts are a day off, but can be close enough to Krishnamurti to suggest the appropriate placement of planets for events (as they judge planetary placement close to angles). The ascendant can be a few degrees off from Krishnamurti, and the Moon of course will be many degrees off. But other planets will be within a few minutes as the difference from Krishnamurti is only one day.

Where I started to study Vedic astrology earlier, I chose Krishnamurti Ayanamsa because at that time it convinced me. If you want to know which Ayanamsa is more correct, you should work at least with birth times accurate to the minute. I do not mean here "Rodden Rating AA" birth times, because they can be also several minutes wrong. You have to use vedic astrological techniques to find out which ayanamsa would be correct. With the western astrological techniques, it would be very very difficult to prove which ayanamsa would be correct. But it is not impossible.

I would compare the examples in my works Suicide and Alzheimer's diseases with Krishnamurti and Fagan Ayanamsa, because the moon positions are very important in these works. But whether anything brings, I have my doubts.

Therese Hamilton wrote:For the Krishnamurti ayanamsa, what range of seconds (from 47) do you suggest for its precise accuracy range?

I would not suggest before doing extensive research. But for that I need suitable software.