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Hello,

With the Aries New Moon this month, I am exploring the physiognomy research work of Dr.H beginning with Aries.

These are the research papers:

http://regulus-astrology.com/pdf/WP%20o ... 100420.pdf

http://regulus-astrology.com/pdf/WP_on_ ... 8_2011.pdf

Physiognomy is primary determined by the rising decan sign and the sign placement of the rising decan’s ruler. There are other factors affecting physiognomy as well, but I want to focus primarily on the sign placement of the rising decan’s ruler.

For Aries, a sign with abundant energy, the physiognomy takes the shape of the Ram, a bony ovate face. This is as per John Willner’s model as well.

In the Leo Rising Decan empirical test paper, 3 examples are provided – Frieda Hughes, Jerry Brown and Harold Washington. Do check them out.

One of the best examples of Aries Physiognomy I came across (in the Victor Project) is Adrien Brody, just check the below link for perfect, beautiful, bony ovate Aries physiognomy:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004778/med ... 892915200/

Venus/Aries is his physiognomy indicator ruling the 3rd decan (Taurus) of his Ascendant; we just need to move the A rated (rounded 3:30 pm) birth time by 4 minutes.

Adrien Brody’s look resembles R.G Collingwood which helped Dr.H to ascertain Collingwood’s Ascendant to be the 3rd decan of Aquarius, which is Libra, ruled by Venus, placed in Aries for Collingwood as well.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ngwood.jpg

Now comes the fun part!

I am providing more examples of the Aries’ bony ovate physiognomy based on the Aries placement of the ruler of the rising decan’s sign.

Varun Dhawan

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Dhawan,_Varun

Ascendant Decan: Libra
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Venus/Aries

https://resize.indiatvnews.com/en/resiz ... 831694.jpg

My friend resembles Varun Dhawan (people often tell him) and he has Leo rising decan with Sun in Aries!

Ranbir Kapoor

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kapoor,_Ranbir

Ascendant Decan: Gemini
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Mercury/Libra-Rx acts as Mercury/Aries

https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/wp-con ... again.jpeg

Ajay Devgan

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Devgn,_Ajay

Ascendant Decan: Leo
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Sun/Aries

http://tantanoo.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... 982647.jpg

Recent photos of him have prominence of the rectangle shape of the Leo (fixed sign) decan.

Celine Dion

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Dion,_Celine

Ascendant Decan: Leo
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Sun/Aries

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001144/med ... 957331968/

Laurence Olivier

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Olivier,_Laurence

Ascendant Decan: Libra
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Venus/Aries

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/8if ... QtLIyP.jpg

Lee van cleef

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Van_Cleef,_Lee

Ascendant Decan: Aries
Ascendant Dean Ruler: Mars/Aries

https://famousfacewiki.com/wp-content/u ... 5klkz4.jpg

Ian Mckellen

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/McKellen,_Ian

Ascendant Decan: Sagittarius
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Jupiter/Aries

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/304/cpspr ... 88d4bb.jpg

John Hurt

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hurt,_John

Ascendant Decan: Sagittarius
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Jupiter/Aries

https://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image ... t=20170517

Johnny Depp

Ascendant Decan: Sagittarius
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Jupiter/Aries

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/610 ... t-2020.jpg

Frédéric Diefenthal

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Di ... d%C3%A9ric
Ascendant Decan: Aquarius
Ascendant Decan Ruler: Saturn/Aries

https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/45/ ... /media.jpg

Gregory Peck, Angelina Jolie as well.

If you come across faces resembling the people in the list or a bony ovate physiognomy, try to check for Aries placement in their birth chart ruling their Ascendant decan.

Thank you for sharing Satya7,

Very interesting!

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Best to you,
Ouranos

Thanks Ouranos!

Do you see any role for genetics-- physical appearance passed from parents to children?

What about siblings and parents who show a strong family resemblance despite having very different horoscopes?

Good question waybread!

I certainly don't have all the answers. Genetics certainly should be playing role for strong family resemblance.

I would definitely like to see horoscopes of siblings and parents showing strong family resemblance to get astrology perspective on the same.

My thinking is that the Egyptian bounds are the astrology DNA which gets passed in the family.

For example, the bound of Mercury/Scorpio is quite active in my family, I see many of them have prominent planet placements in the same bound. My father and son look very similar, they both have Mars/Pisces in Ascendant, I have my MC in the same bound - Mars/Pisces.

Often you will see the bound placement of the Sun and Moon is replicated in the family. For example, someone that has Sun in the bound Venus/Gemini may have the father with Venus/Gemini. Similarly someone with the Moon in the bound Jupiter/Cancer may have mother with Jupiter/Cancer placement. Possibly, the arabic lots of father, mother, sibling, grand parents, need to checked as well. I haven't digged deep into this.

Possibly, the arabic lots of father, mother, sibling, grand parents, need to checked as well. I haven't digged deep into this.

Pilgrim Zeleschicz von Preussen known as Peregrinus of Prussia, a medieval astrologer (1330?-1362) wrote a book called "'The booklet of universal elections of the 12 houses" in which he states... (influence of Ma'shalla)

"Second Lot of ASC is of durablity and established, vigorously of the body, and Venus signify this thing because they are the most lovable on the complexion of the body and soul and by their kindness stands the complexion commonly (?) and in time.
And for this Lot are taken by days and by night, as well as of Venus, Fortuna has part of the Sun. And signify the face of the born and his father and his mother and he is in the semblance of the father or the mother and the appetite and health of the body by its life and by these peregrinations. And this Lot and its Ruler well disposed, the born will be beautiful and will have beautiful face and others members and sound healthy by his life and will have good in these peregrinations. And this Lot and its Lord assemble at the father's side, the child will resemble his father. And has nativities and questions to know durability, we must always look at this part, because if it is at an angle and applies to planets in angle, it portends great duration and long life."

Of course, the answer must be found somewhere in the combinations you mention Satya. More research is needed.
And more info on the parts of the houses compiled by Deborah Houlding
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/alparts.html