Confusion with secondary significers...help! 1 by Anabelle Hello! A few days ago I asked if a man was in a couple (is he in a relationship?). I am very confused with respect to the signifiers: I am Jupiter and he is Mercury (main). I don't know if I must take secondary significers to Sun for him and Venus for me, representing the sexual or instinctive. My confusion is because I looked at House 7 and Casa 11 (what was his C5). In C7 there are no planets. In Casa 5 either, and his Cuspide is in Libra, his regent Venus in my house 5, going to a conjunction with Jupiter (me). Between Venus and Jupiter there is reception by term. In that case, I wonder, is Venus representing me? If so, and then the sun represents it, it takes me to conclusions that make sense. For example: The Sun is in Pisces at Mutual Reception with Jupiter, Luna and Venus. We like it quite a lot from the sexual and instinctive, even something idealized. Also, the Sun and Mercury for reception tell me something interesting: the sun is in the fall of Mercury, and Mercury in the exile of the Sun; He wants to act but the conditions are difficult, he does not find the context. It makes sense to me because there is a relationship linked to a professional health service. But I still have that doubt about Venus and the signifiers ... Does anyone have more clear this matter? I can't put the imagine of the time chart! :/ -Mercury C3 17 ° Aquarius -Saturn C3 28 ° Aquarius -Jupiter C5 10 ° Aries -Moon C5 13 ° Aries -Venus C5 3° Aries (Cuspid conjunction) -Sun conjunction to cusp C4 4 ° Pisces Date of Birth (local time):23 February 2023 - 01:24:00 (-03) Universal Time (UT/GMT):23 February 2023 - 04:24:00 Local Sidereal Time (LST):10:17:50 House system, Terms:Regiomontanus sys., Ptolemy [/img] Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:40 pm
2 by Ouranos Anabelle, Do you have a location for the chart? I can post it if you wish. And can you clarify your question please? You are asking if this man is in a relationship? Blessings! Quote Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:31 am
3 by Anabelle Hello Ouranos! thank you so much!!! the location is Rio Cuarto - Argentina. I don't know why I couldn't upload the image :/ Yes, the literal question was: is he in a relationship? Quote Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:07 pm
4 by johannes susato Anabele, could you please explain, who this man is for you? So we could find the relevant significator. And why do you ask this question? Horary is not a quiz game. Quote Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:29 pm
5 by Anabelle Hello Johannes! Yes, I know it's not a game, it's not my intention to play, I'm just a beginner. I did not elaborate on the context so as not to exhaust the readers, but now I will explain it. I have a professional relationship with the man I am asking about, he provides me with a health service related to someone who depends on me (a third party). From our first interactions, both I and other people noticed an interest or flirtation on his part, although sometimes his behavior becomes erratic (he works as his father's employee, and I suppose that contributes to his behavior being confusing, because the context it's delicate) Since the context is this (professional and family relationships), I asked the question: "is he in a relationship?" to know if he was a factor in all this, to know what might be at stake. We are both erratic in this context, but his situation to advance is more difficult, because he is acting from his professional role; I have less to lose. So, my question was to guide my action, or not to do anything if he was in a relationship. I hope he understands what he meant. Quote Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:39 pm
7 by Anabelle Another thing that caught my attention in interpretive terms is the movement of the Moon in its transit through Aries. It makes conjunction to Venus and Jupiter, sextile to Mars and Mercury, and in the end a sextile to Saturn, which is later conjunct by Mercury. It touches all the planets that Mercury touches and one of the significators. Quote Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:41 pm
8 by Ouranos I am not able to see if he is in a relationship but ME L7 ruling the quesited in Aquarius in his 9th under Saturn rulership indicates he carries a burden that may soon be resolved when ME conjunct SA and the translation of the MO at the very end of Aquarius. The 9th having to do with legal papers, the sextile from MO to MA in his 12th, most likely he is facing divorce proceedings or a separation which is shown by a recent square from ME to UR on the cusp of the 12th. The MO in Aries in the 5th ruled by MA and applying to ME L7 indicates a strong inclination to make a move no matter if the quesited is in a relationship or not. Follow your instinct, the door is open. Not sure about the long-term with a fast and changing MO in Aries and a quick ME but you may end up with a good friendship. VE L11 in Mutual reception and conjunct JU L1 also indicates a fruitful and friendly relationship. JU conjunct the Part of Sickness (AS+MA-SA) says that what is being proposed here by the question is to some extent an empty gesture or you may land somewhere else than intended. Good luck! Ouranos Blessings! Quote Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:23 am
9 by Anabelle Thanks Ouranos! It is very interesting what you tell me! You know, I had thought that this limitation represented by Saturn could be his father, who is his boss, because Mercury also governs his house 4. I don't think it's a divorce because he is not legally married, I know that. I related that perhaps he is taking legal responsibilities in the family business, again for Mercury and Saturn, which make conjunction and change sign. The day Jupiter and Mercury made sextile I had a consultation with him I did not know the part of the Sickness, or its use in this type of questions. What I took was the dodecatemory to know the deep reason of my question, and it is 17 ° Leo, in C9 ... understand, know the truth. Thanks again for your great contribution to me! Hugs! Quote Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:15 pm
10 by Ouranos I don't think it's a divorce because he is not legally married, I know that. I related that perhaps he is taking legal responsibilities in the family business, again for Mercury and Saturn, which make conjunction and change sign. Thank you for the clarification. It makes sense what you say. Keeping in mind that ME and SA get together in a 'critical' degree, a very important decision regarding the relationship with his father and family. Blessings! Quote Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:31 pm
11 by Anabelle Another thing, I had interpreted that pilgrim Mars in the 12th house could be the inability to act with respect to me (it is my dispositor), and that when Mercury trines he becomes aware of that impossibility. I also see that Mars is within the 5th orb, so it has influence in his 1st house. Days after Mercury conjunct Saturn, Mars partly conjuncts the DSC and opposes the ASC. Should I expect something towards myself? Quote Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 am
12 by Ouranos Should I expect something towards myself? My reading is that the MO (you) is approaching a sextile to ME (him) so you are the one making the move. Blessings! Quote Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:10 am