peace on earth 1 by james_m nice thought hey? i was thinking of andre barbaults configuration for 2026 with the pluto-uranus trine with neptune/saturn at the approx midpoint for 2026... the reason it came up is i happened to notice that presently the planet neptune is at the midpoint of pluto-uranus... pluto uranus is about 114 degrees apart at present, while neptune sits close to the midpoint.... what could this mean? there have been a number of huge protests to end the madness in gaza... apparently the protests in the usa are the biggest in over 20 years... i was wondering if the concept of compassion as represented by neptune was taking on a greater emphasis in the minds of people who want to get beyond the back and forth polarity of choosing a side? or does the idea of peace and compassion for those who are innocent need to be emphasized more then we are presently doing collectively? while i was looking at this configuration, i happened to notice how jupiter is backing up into a 45 with neptune.. and it just so happens that the sun-jupiter opposition aspects neptune by hard aspect as well.. this is for november 3rd coming soon.. what does it all mean? sun-jupiter opposition seems like a lot of confidence.. perhaps over confidence would be a good way to describe it..whether that is the confidence in ones religious, political or philosophical convictions, or what, i am not sure... i do think jupiter mixed with neptune emphasizes the religious theme more.. increasingly the dynamic in the middle east is being presented as a clash of religions... i don't see it that way myself, but i have to respect that some others do.. of course a jupiter-neptune 45 is not the same as the conjunction... maybe my speculation here is running rampant, as jupiter-neptune is about speculation too.. and yet, i feel that the broader midpoint picture of pluto-uranus in a developing trine with neptune at its midpoint at present says something... how the transiting sun-jupiter opposition landing in hard aspect to this pattern is up for grabs in terms of meaning, but i thought i'd point it out regardless.. here is a chart for the sun-jupiter opposition set to tel aviv the capital of israel.. until i get my solar fire back on this computer, i am working with morinus software which might not be as exact as solar fire... i get no dst for israel as of yesterday... the time for this chart is 702am november 3rd. sidereal z...... when you do synastry with this chart to the charts for israel, the thing that stands out is how mars in israels chart is in opposition to saturn at the bottom of this chart.. it looks like this with the 4pm chart on the outside below.. israel mars sidereal is 5 leo 15... presently the chart for nov 3rd has saturn at 6 aq 25, while the midheaven for the chart is 6 leo 18... saturn is retro and continues to back up into israels natal mars... i do think of mars-saturn as a war signature and i do think of the opposition as one of great frustration... i recall someone saying it is like driving with your foot on the brake... bad on the brakes, lol.. there is also the transit of mars at 20 libra which is square pluto at 19 cancer.. again a war signature where violence is accentuated.. it is moving out of exactness by nov 2nd.. but mars will continue to move by transit to the square of israels natal saturn - so more conflict... i suppose i am looking for some peaceful resolution here and it is premature... but i think it is coming... i think barbault was onto something with the config for 2026 being an important astrological time of significance... just what it means is up for grabs.. Quote Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:20 pm
Re: peace on earth 2 by james_m there is also a pie in the sky venus-neptune opposition at about the same time as the sun-jupiter opposition.. i tried making a screenshot of the 90 degree wheel off my laptop and i am sharing that below here.. hopefully it works.. this is the same chart i reference in my first post - tel aviv - 702am nov 3rd, 2023.. if you've never worked with the 90 degree dial, a feature of cosmobiology and more generally the ebertin school of astrology, i highly recommend it.. both the sun- jupiter and venus-neptune oppositions appear as conjunctions on the 90 degree wheel.. same deal with saturn conjunct the i.c. or opposite the midheaven degree.. there is also a developing mercury- uranus opposition to the chart as well, which appears as a mercury close to a conjunction of uranus on the 90 degree wheel.. Quote Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:15 am
Re: peace on earth 3 by Ouranos James, presently the planet neptune is at the midpoint of pluto-uranus... pluto uranus is about 114 degrees apart at present, while neptune sits close to the midpoint.... what could this mean? Of PL/UR = NE, the Rulebook says 'Sudden commencing of development which cannot be judged as to duration, direction and process. The step into the unknown.' What we know of the planet energies, we could say 'sudden transformation in confusion, unexpected turnaround'. You want to change something suddenly but you have no plan or don't know where to start. You can develop an interpretation like this. both the sun- jupiter and venus-neptune oppositions appear as conjunctions on the 90 degree wheel Sun/Jupiter = success Venus/Neptune= deceiving Someone looks confident but is a master of a puppet show. Several scenarios are possible... Engaging confidently into a secret affair. Deceptive hopes. Ideas of grandeur not measuring up to expectations. We could go on and on like this. Cheers! Ouranos Blessings! Quote Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:59 am
Re: peace on earth 4 by james_m hi ouranos i have all the books, lol... i've had them for a long time and i know what they say.. i think you'd be better off with ebertins book - cosi, then alfred wittes book - rules for planetary pictures.. but regardless, one has to think of this like a painter who blends colours.. no two painters are alike!! getting away from the books is tricky, but has to happen at some point.. thanks anyway! cheers james ps, i think even michael munkasy had a book out on midpoint pictures if i remember correctly... i don't have that book anymore... maybe i will chime in later with my take on the pictures, but i do think pluto-uranus is more intense and revolutionary in nature... moving into a favourable aspect is positive as i see it... having neptune at the midpoint is also positive... lets be positive, lol! Quote Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:25 pm
Re: peace on earth 5 by Ouranos Ebertin books are more oriented on the psychological and medical side. Very good interpretations! The Rules for Planetary Pictures is more fact oriented, And it includes the Transneptunians. And there is no good or bad, you have to apply it to the context. For example, Pluto is 'change'. Uranus is 'sudden'. If you had Neptune in the midpoint, it seems to describe what the family of the hostages are going through right now in Israel. They don't know what to expect with cloudy Neptune. Good or bad is old traditional school. But if I had a Prime Minister who was telling me that he will change something for 'the better' and I saw Neptune in the picture, I would question his ability to see clearly and be realistic about the situation. What I like about Uranian astrology is that it qualifies the interpretations. Let's take an example Moon transit in the 3rd House trine Jupiter in the 7th You enjoy a trip, a message, a visit from your partner. If you look at the midpoint transiting Moon/natal Jupiter and if it falls in a Sun midpoint = bodily contact with the person Venus midpoint = Beauty, music, pleasure contact Mars midpoint = Activity, work, accomplishment Saturn midpoint = Restrictions, delays, cold Most astrological systems will have to dig deep to find something so simple because the Uranian system focuses on the energy of the planets. Nothing like signs, house systems and all kind of tricky interpretations. Best to you, Ouranos Blessings! Quote Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:59 pm
Re: peace on earth 6 by james_m hi ouranos i am more thinking of hostages and refugees and those who are sensitive to their suffering as falling under the symbolism of neptune... its a 2 sided coin with compassion and empathy on the one hand and hostages and refugees on the other.. over half the population in gaza are refugees and hostages, given the ongoing blockade imposed by israel since 2006.. but i won't go into that, just to point out the idea that neptune at the midpoint of the 2 revolutionary planets - pluto/uranus, could signify a positive development given the harmonius nature of the aspect relationships developing here... this ongoing and developing trine between pluto/uranus and the sextiles to neptune include a saturn transit to neptune for 2026 which barbault described very favourably.. let me quote him ( andre barbault) from his book 'planetary cycles' english edition 2016. page 151 the second graph ( graph not shown here ) is impressive, with the great swing of the pendulum from the lowest to the highest point between 2018 and 2026 where here, conversely, there is a harmonic saturn-neptune conjunction at the central point of an encouraging double sextile to uranus and pluto which are in trine to each other.. it will probably be a change for the better - etc. etc.. page 103 the next conjunction ( saturn/neptune) in 2026 is centrally placed at the beginning of aries and is in a triangular quartet of planets- etc. etc.. it is the most benefit configuration of the century and its interplanetary partnership will work for the best in a splendid relaunch of civilization...it contains a harmonious relationship between primordial polar opposites; the coming together of the external and the internal, rational and spiritual, mind and soul... (2061 set up is kind of the opposite - my paraphrasing)... ----------------------- things take time to change, but hopefully the changes can be made for the well being of all people.. as for your thoughts on the differences between wittes work and ebertins - they are related and all come under the general heading of cosmobiology... to say wittes ideas in the planetary pictures book is more factual oriented seems rich to me! after all the emphasis on hypothetical planets is just that - hypothetical! the emphasis on the planets is a common denominator of both their work and yes - planets are energies which are put in focus more and i like that too.. it is one of the big distinctions between cosmobiology and many other systems in astrology.. the use of midpoints is another main feature.. i think linchi and zacherial in the sidereal forum are very much taken up with this particular astrological system and technics too! thanks for your commentary.. regarding what came out of the jupiter - sun opp for nov 3rd, nasrullah did give a speech on the israel-palestinian conflict that was not covered by the western media... that was one event that happened.. not sure if the timing of the bombing of the refugee camp in gaza also coincided with this and i see their was another refugee camp bombed today... clearly the usa needs to tell israel to call a halt to the indiscriminate bombing, but it doesn't appear to be forthcoming any time soon.. Quote Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:37 pm