Hi everyone,

I've recently noticed that in a 2020 article by Anthony Louis (whom I respect tremendously), there was this claim.
That William Lilly and his contemporaries misunderstood how the triplicity dignity works, and that it should be allocated, or scored, according to ALL THREE RULERS. That is, instead of just the day ruler or night ruler.

Here's the article by AL:
https://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2020/05 ... city-lords

Here's a quote from his article (paragraph 9):
"Dorotheus makes an important point about triplicity rulers, which William Lilly apparently misunderstood. In Book I, chapter 1 of his Carmen Astrologicum , Dorotheus makes clear that all three triplicity rulers act as triplicity lords all the time. The change from day to night simply shifts the emphasis on which matter within a house the particular triplicity lord is likely to signify according to the ordering of the three lords as first, second, and third (participating). Whether it is a day chart or a night chart determines “who’s on first” but does not negate the fact that the second triplicity lord is part of the triumvirate of triplicity governors which all possess the dignity of being triplicity rulers."

What do you think of this claim?
If this is true, the entire renaissance tradition of scoring/allocating only one triplicity lord according to sect should be replaced by the older Hellenistic tradition of scoring/allocation triplicity rulership for all three.

This interests me personally, as dignity has always peaked my interest, and as I currently teach both methods but am wondering if I should emphasize the Hellenistic method.

Thank you for this hint, Dima Gur! I found it interesting and remeber that I have red somewhere else about this significations of triplicity rulers.

One consideration I want to stress:
Obviously there are alterations of the astrological delineation rules over time. Not only after the so called enlightenment but also before. So we have to check what works for us. And all we know about Wiliam Lilly, who used only one triplicity ruler at day and one at night charts, leads to the suspection that he was a realy great astrologer with many clients and very appropriate predictions. So it seems his use of triplicity rulers worked (for him). That is a substantial objection I think!

So we have to find out by ourselves what works.

Georgius, thanks for replying.
Yes, makes sense.

On a different note I've found this article by Anthony from 7-stars-astrology:
https://sevenstarsastrology.com/triplic ... e-or-three
Apparently he reached the same conclusions as did Anthony Louis.

I have no doubt that three tripicity rulers were used for a time. The question is are they helpful for us and for what tasks? Thank you for the links; I will read Dorotheus and Valens.

Georgius wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:02 amI found it interesting and remeber that I have red somewhere else about this significations of triplicity rulers.

Helena Avelar & Luís Ribeiro: “On the Heavenly Spheres”, Appendix 4 “Additional Considerations Concerning the Houses”, particularly p. 233

Oh yes, that would be the AlAndarzaghar technique.
Dividing every house into 3 different topics, based on the triplicity rulers for either day or night.