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I wonder how many astrologers got a copy of the email sent to me:

Hi Deborah, hope you are doing well! You come recommended as an excellent astrologer. We (ClearerThinking.org) have developed a scientific test of astrological skill and were wondering whether you'd like to participate. There is a $1000 prize for those who perform well, and performing well on the test would be a great way to prove to the world in a scientifically valid way that your readings are valid.
The test design is as follows:
Half the time, we'll present a full astrological chart (based on birth date, time, and location) and then show you a list of 5 famous people and you have to use your reading of the chart to say which of the 5 famous people the astrological chart belongs to, using only the chart (no outside information).
The other half the time, we'll present a full astrological chart (based on event date, time, and location) and show you a list of 5 famous world events, and you have to say which of the 5 events the astrological chart belongs to, using only the chart (no outside information).
If you get at least 10 out of the 12 correct, you win the $1000 prize!
The test would be conducted via video chat, would be recorded, and would involve you screen sharing during it.
If you'd like to participate please let us know! If astrology truly works, we hope this will help prove it to the world in a scientifically valid way.
Thanks very much for your time!

Spencer Greenberg
spencer@clearerthinking.org

I don't usually share emails but the same message has been widely promoted on X and social media, inviting astrologers to get in touch and take part.
https://twitter.com/SpencrGreenberg/sta ... 9781560570

I don't see anything worthwhile in this. It is about as scientific as a pub quiz and about as relevant as a newbie astrologer asking themselves 10 questions a day to test if horary works.

Spencer is claiming that a professional astrologer helped to set up the parameters of this test which is a bit demoralising if true. I wonder if said astrologer makes it part of their professional practice to look at charts and guess who they belong to, without any sense of context or purpose.

I am glad to see that the general reaction on social media has been to recognise this shady set up for what it is, so that the astrological community as a whole can be seen to be disapproving and not willing to play into this.

Abigail Joy wrote a good blog post about this - worth checking out on her blog:
https://seebystarlight.substack.com/p/i ... lly-proves

Still, some astrologers seem to think that studies like this can be useful for validating astrology. I absolutely disagree - there is a reason why astrologers are traditionally known as 'artists', and in a subject that deals with metaphysics and symbolism, I don't believe that astrology can ever be measured purely objectively except in certain very well-set-up experiments (such as Gauquelins) which is looking much more specifically at wide, mundane trends - but then the lesson has to be learned of the hash the scientific/research community made of handling that.

Lest anyone has forgotten, remember the woeful tale of sTARBABY and read this link:

https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/sTARBABY

Agree with you Deb.

Here is the registration date and time when clearerthinking.org was created by Spencer Greenberg back in 2013. Time is given as UT.

Saturn/Poseidon right on the AS in Scorpio.
The Rulebook says that SA/PO is all about mental, spiritual or ideological education with a desire to be a model to others mentally. The intent seems to be good.

At the same time, this combination is in the midpoint Neptune/Zeus reading as...
"Unsuccesful activities with others. To be forced to mix with people who are show-offs. Scalded by others."
This is the type of clientele he will attract and I would not want to be part of it.

Ouranos wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:35 pm Agree with you Deb.

Here is the registration date and time when clearerthinking.org was created by Spencer Greenberg back in 2013. Time is given as UT.

Ouranos swoops in with the inception chart! lmao (ily buddy!)

100% agree with yours, Deb's, and Abigail's takes here, too.

Ouranos wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:35 pm Saturn/Poseidon right on the AS in Scorpio.
The Rulebook says that SA/PO is all about mental, spiritual or ideological education with a desire to be a model to others mentally. The intent seems to be good.

At the same time, this combination is in the midpoint Neptune/Zeus reading as...
"Unsuccessful activities with others. To be forced to mix with people who are show-offs. Scalded by others."
This is the type of clientele he will attract and I would not want to be part of it.

The Neptune/Zeus midpoint is more than 1 degree away from the Asc/Saturn/Poseidon axis, and Uranian astrologers usually wouldn't use such a wide orb.
The midpoints that do share this Asc (others, surroundings) =Saturn=Poseidon (education) axis, with a very tight orb (of a few minutes) , are Mars/Apollon ("Generous way of acting, Peaceful, scientific and trade activity, Successful activity, An activity expanded and enlarged, Rising of the market")
and Mercury/Zeus ("Creative thinking, to command, to threaten, dictator").

Their professional/vocational axis Mc/Asc = Node = Jupiter = Moon = Mercury/Apollon("scientific thinking, Many talks, speaking, knowledge of languages, Science of languages") = Venus/Kronos ("the great helping hand, charitable love, benevolence, high feelings, great love and capability, affection, Fondness, welfare, help through the authorities") =Aries/Kronos ("Great powers, nations or governments")

Astrology is indeed a language (among other things)...The language of the universe...the programing language of The Matrix, the simulation...