US Stock Market Crisis? 1 by Mark Is the USA facing a stock market crisis? Many financial astrologers use the chart for the New York Stock exchange rather than a general chart for the US (like Sibly) to gauge stock market trends. The chart for the NYSE certainly provides food for thought. Firstly, this chart has Mercury (Lord 2) at 23''47 Taurus. Uranus will conjunct this degree later this month. Later Uranus is going to conjunct the Sun of the NYSE at 27'17 Taurus. Uranus will go stationary retrograde exactly on the partile degree of the NYSE Sun on September 2nd 2024. Historically, September is often a time of stock market instability in the US. Uranus goes direct again at the end of January 2025. Uranus direct will conjunct the NYSE chart Mercury again in March 6th 2025 and will be conjunct the NYSE sun exactly on May 9th 2025. Any other thoughts on this? https://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgi ... OP6AWsERTU As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Thu May 09, 2024 8:55 pm
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 2 by james_m hi mark putting it in a larger framework both you and wei might enjoy this article as it pertains to possible financial changes either in the us$ or stock markets and globally.. https://archive.ph/hpJU3 Quote Fri May 10, 2024 3:22 pm
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 3 by Mark On another forum I have had another astrologer suggest there is no connection between Uranus transits to the NYSE chart Sun and market volatility. He cited the 1929, 1987 and the 2007-2008 crashes. However, this ignores the slump in the US stockmarket following the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7th 1941. At this time Uranus had reached 27'40 Rx in Taurus so was applying by conjunction to the NYSE Sun. This led to a slump in the DJIA until the middle of 1942 when American military fortunes finally reversed at the battle of Midway. By this time Uranus had just entered Gemini. 26-28 in the fixed signs also activates a number of key US charts. In particular the Cancer ingress for 1776 (26 Leo Moon), The chart for the outbreak of the American revolution (Mars 26 Leo), The POTUS chart ASC Sq Uranus, the Federal government ASC opposed by Tr Uranus. I dont use the Sibly chart but clearly its Moon is also activated. Uranus will also be conjunct the malefic fixed star Algol at 26 Taurus. Whether the US election could contribute to market instability or whether market instability effects the outcome of the Presidential election in November is an open question. As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Sat May 11, 2024 3:47 pm
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 4 by Mark The Western Sidereal astrologer Kenneth Bowser produced this interesting article on the NYSE chart and historic crashes and stock market reversals back in 2000. https://www.westernsiderealastrology.co ... dagreement Mark As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Sat May 11, 2024 4:02 pm
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 5 by Jason Hi Mark, I don't know enough about the history of the stock market as it relates to astrology to offer any input on past crises, but I have had my eye on this summer with a raised brow as concerns NYSE because Jupiter and Saturn will make their opening square after the 'great' conjunction of 2020; the 'great' conjunction occurred at 0° Aquarius, in partile square to the NYSE chart's MC. Below is the NYSE chart (for transparency Astrodatabank gives it a DD rating): NYSE.png Viewed 2984 times 148.38 KiB I've always thought of Jupiter-Saturn aspects as boom/bust indicators, so in relation to something like stocks, I think they are probably worth watching. (The NYSE chart is a good example of that with its Jupiter-Saturn opposition). I do not watch stocks myself, as I am too poor to invest (besides my 401k at work), LOL, so you can take my opinion lightly if you wish. I hardly consider myself 'informed' on this topic. It's interesting to note that the April solar eclipse was visible from New York and made a direct hit to the NYSE Moon (12h ruler). In this NYSE chart, the Moon opposes Jupiter and applies to Saturn, pointing toward the importance of their relationship to one another in relation to the Exchange. The upcoming lunations of August are worth looking at as they set off parts of the chart rather impressively: The new Moon falls on the chart's ASC, near Uranus, and squaring the approximate midpoint of Mercury-Venus (10h and 2h rulers). Transiting Jupiter and Saturn perfect their square in hard aspect to NYSE's radical Mars in 2; and transiting Mars joins this party: NYSE+NM 8_2024.png Viewed 2984 times 109.43 KiB It's also a rather striking lunation chart when just set for New York: NM_NY.png Viewed 2984 times 151.76 KiB Like I stated earlier, I'm not a financial astrologer, so I'm not particularly versed in talking about the ins and outs of these things. As an astrologer in general though, I feel like they definitely seem to be pointing toward something. Hopefully, these charts spark some interest for you. thoughts are just thoughts Quote Sun May 12, 2024 9:37 am
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 6 by Greg Young Again it's not my domain or interest but I will say that the Exchange's Solar Return is quite spectacularly positive - but for a WHOLE year? Moon trine Sun-Venus-Jupiter-Uranus Mercury square Pluto is the potential fly in the ointment. I'm guessing that could have something to do with blockages in the trade route due to conflicts etc. Attachments NY Exchange SR.png Viewed 2981 times 476.22 KiB Quote Sun May 12, 2024 10:15 am
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 7 by clausewitz Hi Mark. I expect periodic bouts of panic and elation to hit the market all the way till June 2026. Astrologically speaking. I have a theory about the next global humanitarian crisis and the next global financial crisis emerging between June 2026 and Dec 2027. Both will hit. GHC then GFC. In that sequence. But. Most particularly, Aug 2026 to April 2027 for a global humanitarian crisis like a war or pandemic or natural disaster. And. I'm expecting the next global financial crisis to hit between Dec 2026 and Dec 2027. The two events, GHC and GFC generally overlap in the first 4 months of 2027. Astrologically speaking. I'd expect Aug 2026 to Dec 2027 to be the real kicker in this decade. I use a variety of different charts for the different countries of the world. And. Their annual charts. I hope I am wrong. Quote Fri May 17, 2024 3:01 am
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 8 by Wei Algol, belonging to the Perseus constellation, is an intriguing fixed star. Algol is a multiple star system with three confirmed stars and two suspected members. From Earth's perspective, because the orbital plane of Aa1 and Aa2 is aligned with our line of sight, Algol is an eclipsing binary. As Aa1 and Aa2 alternate between bright and dim, Algol appears to blink from Earth's viewpoint. In Greek mythology, the blood from the right side of the Gorgon’s body had the power to revive the dead, while the blood from the left side was a swift and deadly poison. Therefore, Algol can be considered a significant turning point. The last time Uranus was at 26 degrees Taurus was during 1941-1942. On December 7, 1941, Japan launched a surprise attack on the United States' naval base at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, prompting the United States to officially declare war. The Pearl Harbor attack marked the beginning of the Pacific War and was a crucial turning point in World War II. At that time, Saturn was at 23 degrees 31 minutes Taurus, and Uranus was at 27 degrees 39 minutes Taurus. Following the Pearl Harbor attack, the U.S. stock market did not initially plummet. It was during the Battles of the Coral Sea and Midway that the market hit bottom due to the uncertainty of war, causing investors to withdraw their funds from the market, resulting in the largest decline in the Dow Jones Index during the wartime period. However, after the U.S. victory in the Battle of Midway, the U.S. stock market emerged from the bear market that had started in 1929 during the Great Depression. From the perspective of the United States, I believe there are two crucial issues it faces today. First, the Russia-Ukraine war. The U.S. cannot afford to lose. Second, China's lunar exploration program. The U.S. cannot afford to fall behind. The actions and decisions of France are also worth paying attention to. From July 26 to August 11, 2024, the Summer Olympics will be held in Paris. Let us hope that nothing significant will happen during this period. Dow Jones Average: 1941 - 1944 1941 - 1944.jpg Viewed 2923 times 69.56 KiB https://www.investmentoffice.com/Observ ... d_War.html Quote Sun May 19, 2024 11:49 am
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 9 by Mark Wei wrote: Following the Pearl Harbor attack, the U.S. stock market did not initially plummet. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, it not only led the United States into World War II but also caused panic on Wall Street. On December 8, 1941, the first trading day after the attack, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) fell by 3.5%. However, rather than describe the effect of Pearl Harbor as a ''crash'' it would be more accurate to state that the market dropped a further rung down the ladder in a bear market that had began with German military victories in Europe as the graph you displayed show. The DJIA finally bottomed out on 28th of April 1942. That was technically a week or so before the battle of Coral sea. A nadir for the Dow jones and the end of the DJIA slump. The DJIA low in 1942 was within a few days of the Saturn Uranus conjunction in Gemini, a 47 year cycle. This was followed by the decisive military victory in the Battle of Midway in early June 1942. Then as most market historians will confirm, there was a bull market from that low to Feb. 09, 1966, when the DJIA first hit 1,000. Intriguingly, Saturn perfected an opposition to Uranus and Pluto in late February 1966 mirroring the start of the Saturn-Uranus planetary synodic cycle in 1942. I could of course be wrong that a financial crisis is pending between September 2024 and summer 2025 based on the Uranus transits to the NYSE Sun. It is after all only one chart and it could be well argued that we need other planetary cycles or ingresses to support such a notion. In that respect 2025 seems the more likely period for this to come to fruition. I was simply flying a kite on this to see what astrological reaction I got. However, I dont think anyone can deny that the attack on Pearl Harbor is amongst the most critical moments in US history just as 9/11 has been in our own era. I have found a cluster of critical US charts heavily activated by Uranus in late Taurus such as the POTUSA chart (1789), Federal government chart (1789), Revolutionary chart (1775), Cancer ingress for 1776, Scorpio/Sibly charts for July 4th 1776. Perhaps the symbolism will work out in more political terms. That in itself could effect market confidence. Joe Biden's health and Donald Trump's legal position have led to some speculation whether one or both candidates may not make it to the inauguration podium in January 2025. Joe Biden's Sun is at 27 Scorpio and Donald Trump's Mars is at 26 Leo. Its interesting that the Republican National National Convention begins on July 15th 2024 takes place at the time of the Mars-Uranus conjunction on the malefic fixed star algol at 26 Taurus. The potential for fireworks , upheaval and unpredictable outcomes clearly presents itself. However, the Democratic Party National Convention on August 19th 2024 coincides with a full Moon where the Moon is at 27 Aquarius (Sibly degree) squared by Uranus. This is squaring Biden's Sun in Scorpio. Again an astrological signature for unpredictability, disruption and things not going to plan. Mark. As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Sun May 19, 2024 12:39 pm
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 10 by Mark Clausewitz wrote: Hi Mark. I expect periodic bouts of panic and elation to hit the market all the way till June 2026. Astrologically speaking. I have a theory about the next global humanitarian crisis and the next global financial crisis emerging between June 2026 and Dec 2027. Both will hit. GHC then GFC. In that sequence. But. Most particularly, Aug 2026 to April 2027 for a global humanitarian crisis like a war or pandemic or natural disaster. And. I'm expecting the next global financial crisis to hit between Dec 2026 and Dec 2027. The two events, GHC and GFC generally overlap in the first 4 months of 2027. Astrologically speaking. I'd expect Aug 2026 to Dec 2027 to be the real kicker in this decade. I use a variety of different charts for the different countries of the world. And. Their annual charts. I hope I am wrong. Thanks Clausewitz . However, frankly, you haven't given us much to work with here. You have given us proposed timings but no astrological reasoning behind them. It would be good to see some specifics regarding the astrological reasoning behind your statements. You state you have an astrological theory? Can you give us a link to that or set out your theory here? No offence but Global Human crisis is very vague. What astrological factors do you see behind a GFC Dec 2026 to Dec 2026? Sticking with my original focus of this thread I still think we are looking at the prospect of a serious financial downturn much sooner than you suggest. I am thinking probably 2025 rather than 2026-2027. I will set my reasoning out later in this thread. Mark As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Sun May 19, 2024 2:55 pm
Re: US Stock Market Crisis? 11 by Wei Mark wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 12:39 pm I have found a cluster of critical US charts heavily activated by Uranus in late Taurus such as the POTUSA chart (1789), Federal government chart (1789), Revolutionary chart (1775), Cancer ingress for 1776, Scorpio/Sibly charts for July 4th 1776. In the astrological chart for July 4th, 1776, the North Node is at 7 degrees 39 minutes of Leo, and its antiscion is at 22 degrees 21 minutes of Taurus. If we consider an orb of 5 degrees for Algol, then the North Node is in antiscia with Algol. Mark wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 12:39 pm Then as most market historians will confirm, there was a bull market from that low to Feb. 09, 1966, when the DJIA first hit 1,000. Intriguingly, Saturn perfected an opposition to Uranus and Pluto in late February 1966 mirroring the start of the Saturn-Uranus planetary synodic cycle in 1942. What major events occurred in the United States in 1966? I haven't found any particularly significant events. In China, however, 1966 marked the beginning of the Cultural Revolution, the successful launch of a rocket capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, and a successful nuclear test. The information I found indicates that on February 9th, 1966, DJIA closed at 995.15 points and never broke the psychological barrier of 1,000 points until November 14th, 1972, when it finally surpassed 1,000 points. This was around the time when the North Vietnamese government agreed to send representatives to negotiate with American envoy Henry Kissinger to end the war. Additionally, in February 1972, President Nixon visited China, initiating formal relations with the People's Republic of China. 1966.png Viewed 2874 times 133.61 KiB 1972.png Viewed 2874 times 131.27 KiB Reference (Chinese) : https://www.stockfeel.com.tw/道瓊指數百年大回顧/ All these efforts were aimed at ending the Vietnam War. The United States sought to improve relations with China and the Soviet Union to reduce their diplomatic support for North Vietnam, thereby achieving a military agreement. An important aspect of American foreign policy is to align with China against Russia, or with Russia against China, with the greatest fear being a Sino-Russian alliance. The current Ukraine war has prompted a closer alignment between China and Russia. I am observing how the U.S. government will address this predicament. This month, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) Copper Futures HGN4 has risen to $5.11/High May 20th. Generally, an increase in copper futures indicates economic recovery (as infrastructure development requires raw materials like iron, steel, and copper). However, bullets and shell casings also require materials such as copper and steel, especially copper. Copper Futures HGN4 (Month) Month.jpg Viewed 2874 times 30.7 KiB Quote Mon May 20, 2024 6:24 pm
Recent phenomena at the New York Stock Exchange(NYSE) over the past week 12 by Wei Recent phenomena at the New York Stock Exchange(NYSE) over the past week: **Friday, May 31st** The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by 574 points, marking the best trading day of the year so far. However, the Nasdaq Composite Index fell by 2.06 points, and the Philadelphia Semiconductor Index dropped by 49.90 points. (Some significant weighted stocks, such as TSMC and Nvidia, showed a downward trend.) **Monday, June 1st** Warren Buffett's assets "almost" evaporated by 99%. (On June 1st, the NYSE, along with other UTP exchanges, ruled to cancel all erroneous trades of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK.A) that occurred at or below $603,718.30 between 9:50 AM and 9:51 AM Eastern Time.) Quote Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:46 am