June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 1 by janegca A march on Washington, organized by the Poor People's Campaign is scheduled for 10 AM, Saturday, June 29. It's full name is The Mass Poor People's Low-Wage & Worker's Assembly Moral March on Washington. I don't have much practice in Mundane but I wanted to take a look at the event chart: 20240629-Moral-March.png Viewed 1156 times 115.34 KiB Here's my take on it: Uranus on the MC points to the event as a "radical" action and Uranus, as the co-ruler of the 6th indicates, the action it is taken by workers. A close sextile to Mercury points to the people wanting to "talk" peacefully (Venus). The 10th is the 5th from the 6th so the action may well have been spurred by the upcoming election; this is also indicated by Capricorn intercepted in the 5th with Saturn in the 7th of conflict and by Jupiter (L5) in the 10th. The Sun (L1) is in the 11th with Venus (L10, L3) and Mercury (L11, L2) all disposited by the Moon (general significator of the people) in the 8th. So, the people are feeling their power (Sun) and marching as lions into the den of government (Venus as ruler of 10th of authorities, the 11th being the administration, Moon being in the 10th from Cancer). The 6th/12th axis is critical at 0 Leo/ 0 Aquarius. Leo covers the 1st and 12th, emphasizing the people's (1st) suffering (12th) and their desire to overcome it and Aquarius covers the 6th and 7th, possibly indicating their willingness to work (6th) battle (7th) in order to do so although the 6th also rules the police and Saturn is sextile Mars in the 9th of the law who is sextile the 11th house planets so there could be delayed police/judicial action in response (Venus L10 separating Mars, applying to trine Saturn. Pluto in the 6th points to an acute division into two factions, possibly between working people and civil service (police)?. The Moon's placement speaks to the fact that one of the motivations behind the march is the number of poor people dying daily in the US; one report puts it at approximately 500 per day in 2019 and that is supposedly an understatement. Many of these deaths are due to lack of decent health care for those with incomes below the median wages. The campaign puts the number dying at 800 per day in 2024. Given all but one planet is above the horizon and only one of those cadent this looks to be a large and very public march. Found a few strong connections to the US Chart (I use Zain's, not Sibley's) USA-Zain.png Viewed 1156 times 111.85 KiB There are a few interesting connections: The event Mercury at 24 Cancer is conjunct radix Mercury (ruler of the radix Asc) in the radix 3rd highlighting the people are on the move and want to talk The event Jupiter in the 10th at 7 Gemini is conjunct the radix Asc; Jupiter rules the radix 7th (conflict) and 11th (administration, people's ambitions) Radix Uranus is in the 1st; in the event chart it is on the MC; people (1st) seeking authority (10th) The event Neptune is stationary and critical at 29 Pisces transiting the radix 11th (administration, people's ambitions) with radix Neptune in the 5th of elections The event Saturn is stationary and also transiting the radix 11th while closely semi-sextile the radix Moon in the radix 10th. Saturn rules the radix 10th and is posited in the radix 5th (elections). Also, looking at the Aries Ingress chart for 2024; Aries-Ingress-2024.png Viewed 1156 times 110.53 KiB Uranus in the Ingress 7th (conflict) at 20 Taurus is partile sextile Mars in the 1st of the radix with Ingress Mars on the IC and ruling the Ingress Asc: people (1st) fighting for their homes/country (4th); however, as the 4th is also the opposition party, it could be the people taking the fight to Trump Ingress Sun in the 5th (elections) ruling the Ingress 10th - seems to emphasize that those in authority are more concerned with the election than with the people as is the administration as Mercury (L11) is also in the 5th conjunct the North Node. Given Mercury rules the radix Asc could be indicating the people are taking a growing interest in what is happening as the election looms closer. The event chart Venus is at the bendings of the Ingress nodal axis so this march could well prove critical to Biden (Venus rules event 10th) especially if takes judicial action against the marchers Don't know how many 'mundane astrology' rules I've broken here but it will be interesting to see how the march plays out and how the public in general, Trump, and Biden react to it. There are 135 million poor in the US, many of whom have never voted; if even a fraction turn out to vote on November 5th there is little doubt they could turn the election; which way though is anyone's guess at the moment. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:15 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 2 by james_m thanks jane i wouldn't worry about breaking 'mundane rules'... this is a really important issue as i see it with the large number of homeless people in both canada and the usa.. i have no idea how bad this is in europe, but from my travels, it is nowhere near as bad as it is here on the westcoast of canada/usa.. poor people are forced to live on the streets... occupy wall st was an important precuser to this event.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street whether this gets 'legs' - hard to know, but i like your attempt at putting it in an astrological context.. thanks.. Quote Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:31 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 3 by Wei Thank you, Jane and James. I am interested in these events. Quote Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:52 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 4 by Ouranos Housing issues seem to be related to the Nodal axis Previous cycles have shown that "Most real estate price tops have occurred with the North Node in Taurus and/or moving into late Aries." The current cycle. See the article below. "This means if we are to follow the nodal cycle, and the housing market was to turn down globally, this would mean an expected real estate bottom around March 2028 when the N Node moves to Capricorn - except for a distorted cycle due to the outer transits mentioned below which may push the cycle out a little. Using the 9 year cycle of a projected top around early 2022 this would actually likely be around 2030 for a major bottom. I have seen 2028 in more than one astrology calculation over the years and now I know where they got this from, so working between 2028-2030 seems feasible using similar astrological calculation. " https://profitwiththeplanets.com/blog/f ... -the-nodes K. Silas --------------- I also noticed Jane that the march has the Moon near the Nodes at the bendings from the LQ Moon. The Moon rules the Sun and the Moon is ruled by Mars and MO/MA = Aries Point The Rulebook says - Public works. To be active in the public. The force of the people. Blessings! Quote Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:02 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 5 by Wei What I am thinking of is McWhirter's Nodal Cycle. McWhirter's Nodal Cycle.jpg Viewed 1122 times 161.74 KiB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_McWhirter What I find noteworthy is that McWhirter referred to the level of economic activity, not the highs and lows of the stock market indices (I previously misunderstood this point, which caused errors in data comparison). In years of high economic activity, the stock market may experience significant surges or declines. Other economic-related activities, such as strikes, market closures, and increases in labor productivity, also tend to have noticeable effects. For instance, the Occupy Wall Street movement in September 2011 occurred when the North Node was in Sagittarius, indicating a relatively high and normal level of economic activity. The protests happening this year, with the North Node in Aries, suggest relatively low economic activity. Let's see how significant the impact of this year's protests will be. Quote Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:32 am
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 6 by Wei After carefully examining the Occupy Wall Street movement, it appears that the then-President Obama supported the movement, which won him voter favor and helped him secure re-election in the 2012 presidential election. Could this recent Poor People's Campaign incident be one of the black swan events in the United States in 2024? Previously, there were anti-war movements by Columbia University students. Based on common sense (excluding natural disasters like earthquakes), the political black swan events we can currently think of are: 1. The United States directly participating in the Israel-Hamas war or conflicts in other Middle Eastern countries. 2. Ukraine surrendering 3. The collapse of the US stock market 4. A repeat of the Capitol attack event of January 2021 5. The collapse of the US national debt 6. States near the Mexico–United States border, such as California and Texas, clashing with the federal government 7. Assassination of political figures 8. Large-scale attacks on US overseas bases, such as in Syria or Iraq. 9. I can't believe I didn't mention China, Taiwan, or North Korea. By the way, we also have the Paris Olympics in July. Quote Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:13 am
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 7 by Ouranos Thanks for the graph on McWhirter's cycle theory Wei, It shows well the low peak in Aquarius for the stock market and Housing lows are happening shortly after in Capricorn or should I say in the axis Capricorn/Cancer. Can't remember if it is Rudhyar who said that the Moon's Nodes are more lunar than the Moon itself. Any aspect to the Nodes will show up developments or turning points with the Housing situation. The Sun for the March on Washington is squaring the Nodes, 90 days after the eclipses seasons and semi-square Uranus, approaching the midpoint SU/NN=UR Blessings! Quote Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:28 am
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 8 by james_m wei i think the term 'black swan' implies different types of scenarios which are impossible to see in advance.. at least this is how i understand if from the well known book by nassim taleb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black ... Improbable but regardless of how one labels events, or scheduled marches on washington, i believe you are getting at something of a bigger picture here, while some are only focused on the housing problem as the core problem... for me this is not about 'just housing' or where the nodal axis is astrologically! it is about a bigger cycle that has come, or is coming to completion - i have used the 250 year pluto cycle before in reference to the usa.... you shared a video in the philosophy section that i think is quite good and captures my own thinking of what is happening in the usa and more generally explaining world geo political dynamics... others might want to watch it too... it's titled 'the changing world order'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguam0TKMw8 Quote Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:13 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 9 by janegca Hi James, Wei, Ouranos ... thanks for the info on the Nodal Cycle, I have not run across it before. Agree with James re: the housing problem, in the sense that it is a symptom of much larger social problems. In an historical sense, I'm reminded of the ancient cities that were abandoned largely because their populations outgrew or destroyed their immediate resources and so had to seek out new areas to live. We are basically in the same boat, except there are no "new" areas to move to. The earth's resources are not endless and we have/are pushing them to the edge. I hope we, humanity, get a handle on this sooner rather than later and there do appear to be some grass root movements to that end but we've made huge mistakes in the last 150-200 years which I doubt can be turned around in in less time than that. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:47 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 10 by Ouranos Jane, there do appear to be some grass root movements to that end but we've made huge mistakes in the last 150-200 years which I doubt can be turned around in in less time than that. Wise perspective Jane! Human beings will soon realize that when there are no more spaces to move around, the solutions will not be in revolutions but in implosions. Homeless people will create a parallel society occupying the public space and those with 'legal status' will be confined in their own jail like they do in some cities in United States. To get back home after work, you have to decline your identity before entering a guarded area. I remember the first Sim City with the scenario of fixing Detroit city devastated by ramping criminality. Do you plant trees or do you put police headquarters every corner of the streets? Sounds futuristic? Not in Haiti right now! With Hades conjunct Kronos in Cancer for some time now, we are witnessing not only the failure of democracy but the failures of governments around the world right and left. More than a run of bad luck, what do you do when you are left to play a trump elevated only by the power of money. Blessings! Quote Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:46 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 11 by Wei James, Apart from the Occupy Wall Street movement in the United States, there were numerous civic occupation movements (civilian opposition to governments) between 2009 and 2015. These included the Tunisian Jasmine Revolution, the Egyptian Revolution, the Libyan Civil War, the Syrian Civil War, the Yemeni uprising, the Bahraini uprising, the Algerian protests, a series of protests and revolutionary movements that swept across the Arab world, as well as the Hong Kong Umbrella Revolution (Occupy Central movement), the UK anti-austerity protests (2010 student protests), the Taiwan Sunflower Student Movement, the Venezuelan anti-government protests (2014 Venezuelan protests), the Spanish "Indignados" movement (Indignados movement), the Indian anti-corruption movement, and the Brazilian anti-government protests (2013 Brazilian protests). There seemed to be a wave during Donald Trump's election as president, where significant far-right and conservative political events and trends emerged in Europe and the United States between 2012 and 2017. The rise of the French National Front (now known as National Rally), Marine Le Pen's strong performance in the 2017 French presidential election, although ultimately unsuccessful, the rise of Greece's Golden Dawn party, Germany's anti-Islamization protests (PEGIDA), and the Brexit referendum in the UK were notable among them. I know Nassim Nicholas Taleb, and I have read another book of his, "Antifragile." To be honest, his books don't quite suit my taste; I find them hard to grasp. For a while, I used to visit the university library near my home quite often. Aside from some English books that were too specialized (reading English is quite taxing for me), I practically skimmed through all the books there (literally just skimming; my memory isn't that good to retain and comprehend all that knowledge). I want to understand what the truth of this world is, and how it really operates according to what rules. Let us witness and observe together the election results in the UK and France in July. I anticipate a change in the UK's Prime Minister (due to Brexit), while France is likely to maintain its current political balance (with Macron's party still needing to cooperate with other parties to govern, and struggling to become the largest party in parliament, thus unable to fully control it). Quote Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:04 pm
Re: June 29, 2024 - Scheduled March on Washington 12 by janegca Well seem to have misread this event, it happened but the main stream media seems to have totally ignored it; haven’t been able to find any response to it. Looking at the event chart, I’m wondering if this silence (their not being heard) is indicated by L1, L3, and Mercury all being intercepted in Cancer (a mute sign). ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:01 pm