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There are some astrological indications that Donald J. Trump could be in serious danger ahead of the presidential election in November 2024. In the following, I will substantiate this statement astrologically with corresponding graphics.

Donald J. Trump

* 14 June 1946 at 10:53:51 a.m. (corr.) GMT-4
Queens, New York, U.S., 40°n41'29", 73°w48'20"

According to astrological signs, the hazard should be triggered during the month of October 2024, with the peak of the hazard on October 21st.

Lunar Return (Harmonic 64) - 8 October 2024

lunar MA/SA = lunar SU/NE = natal MA/ZE = natal AR/ZE = natal NE/KR = natal SA/UR

MA/SA = MA/ZE, a general interruption. Acute sickness. The act of separation. Shooting flames; danger of fire (Rules p. 197, 203)
AR/ZE, war powers. Conflagrations. (Rules, p.54)
SU/NE, weak or physically defenseless; lack of life energy (Rules, p. 113)
NE/KR, diplomacy. Master of deception. Incompetent management (Rules, p. 254)
SA/UR, sudden separation. Sudden disturbances. Sudden losses (Rules, p. 225)




Lunar Return (Harmonic 128) - 8 October 2024

lunar MA/SA = natal SU/MA = natal SU/UR = natal SA/UR

MA/SA = SU/MA, a general interruption. Acute sickness. The act of separation; the (active) man. The soldier. The working day. The action of the living body. (Rules, p. 109)
SU/UR, tension of the body. Nervousness. Sudden physically exciting events. Accidents (Rules, p. 112)
SA/UR, sudden separation. To be separated suddenly. Sudden disturbances. Sudden losses (Rules, p. 225)




Monday, 21 October 2024

Secundary Progressions (Harmonic 32)

secundary MA/SA = secundary ZE = natal SU = natal SA = natal ZE

MA/SA = ZE, death through fire-arms, fire, assassination (Rules, p. 197)
MA/SA = SU, death, sickness, personal difficulties (Rules, p. 197)



Secundary Progressions (Harmonic 64)

secundary SA/ZE = natal MA = natal AR = natal UR

SA/ZE = MA, death or injuries through firearms, through fire (Rules, p. 230)
AR, public life. The world public. (Rules, p. 37)
UR, suddenness. Surprising. Unexpected. Events. (Rules, p. 236)




Secundary Progressions (Harmonic 4096)

secundary MA/SA = secundary UR/VU = natal SU = natal HA

MA/SA = SU, death, sickness, personal difficulties (Rules, p. 197)
UR/VU = HA, to be exposed and subjected to great baseness and vile acts. Sudden great danger. (Rules, p. 246)




Transits (Harmonic 64)

transit MA/SA = transit SU/MA = natal SU/SA = natal ZE

MA/SA = ZE, death through fire-arms, fire, assassination (Rules, p 197)
SU/MA, the man. The active man. The soldier. Daily action. (Rules, p. 109)
SU/SA, personal and physical hindrances and difficulties. Physical separations. A day with hindrances and difficulties (Rules, p. 111)




Zachariel

Hi, Zachariel

Congratulations on your post.

The last transit lunar phase before the event on 17.10.2024 also shows what dangerous things could happen.

The last transit lunar phase:

17.10.2024 7:26:15 GMT-4 0°28'24"Ari Full Moon

Harmonic 256

t MA/SA = r SU




When we look at the transit lunar phase with harmonic 4096:

The last transit lunar phase:

17.10.2024 7:26:15 GMT-4 0°28'24"Ari Full Moon

Harmonic 4096

t lunar phase = r MA/SA

t lunar phase = 0° 2' 02''
r MA/SA = 0° 3' 21'' - 0° 1' 19'' = 0° 2' 02''

Furthermore, The difference between transit lunar phase and radix SU/MO midpoint is only 2 seconds

Dear linchi,

you're welcome.

Thank you very much for your astrological additions!
These additional informations help to expand the astrological insights and are therefore very useful.

Zachariel

Hi Zachariel, I haven’t learned how to read sidereal yet, only tropical. But curiosity got me to look at his progressed in tropical.

It looks to me as if Saturn in his 9th H of ‘morals and higher thoughts’ rules his 3rd H of ‘communication’ and squares the 1st and 7th houses, (himself and others). Saturn rules dark skinned people. Here, I think he ‘sticks his foot in his mouth’ about his opponent being black.

Then I took a look at his (tropical) Natal with transits for 10/23/24.

Unpredictable Uranus conjuncts his MC in the 10th and squares Mars in his 12th which conjuncts his AC. Yes, it does look like it could be another assassination attempt. But more likely than not, I think he hurts himself with his own moral conduct. Jupiter also opposes his Moon, which rules all 30 degrees of Cancer hidden in his 11th H of friends. Most likely his own political party ‘symbolically’ executes him. They block him from getting elected. At least that’s my take on it. I don’t think he really gets killed. I think his ‘career’ as a political leader gets killed.

Hi Starz4U,
thank you for your contribution. As you know, astrological predictions are inherently uncertain, regardless of whether tropical or sidereal. And of course I would be very relieved if my prediction turned out to be wrong. I abhor violence, assassinations deeply.

It is possible that it may be true, what you wrote in your post. That Trump "that his 'career' as a political leader gets killed".

I don't know how familiar you are with Uranian Astrology (aka "Hamburg School of Astrology") and its further development, called Microastrology. There we work with planetary pictures and symmetries by which planets and transneptunians are connected to each other. And for interpretation we use "Rules for Planetary Pictures" (Link: https://www.witte-verlag.com/internatio ... tures.html ) and sometimes also "Lexicon for Planetary Pictures" (Link: https://www.witte-verlag.com/internatio ... ology.html ).
And according to the Rules for Planetary Pictures, page 197 "MA/SA = SU" means: "Death, sickness, personal difficulties". We can assume that if his career as a political leader gets killed, that indeed would be correlated with "personal difficulties".

But the predictive analysis with the tool "Microastrology" showed also other planetary pictures, such as: ""MA/SA = ZE = SU". And this planetary picture is quite frightening, quite disturbing. The Rulesbook translate this to: "death through fire-arms, fire, assassination" (page 197). And there are also other disturbing planetary pictures displayed.

I am really not an advocate of Donald J. Trump. But I don't think that Trump has put "his foot in his mouth" when he recently proclaimed in an interview that he didn't know that Kamala H. is black. The woke lefties tried to make a big scandal out of this statement. This is a very treacherous attempt.
https://youtu.be/UEk2NuVSoMU?si=ySuHEa9P5wiTPIyg
I don't believe that this 'scandal' blown up by the lefties will subtantially harm Trump's election chances.

Since the elections can be easily rigged, due to the hilarious peculiarities of the method of conducting U.S.-elections (electronic ballot machines; administration of voter-registration) it is not really necessary for the system to 'neutralize' Trump physically.

But if Kamalas chances of beeing elected were to dwindle massively, who knows what the system is capable of?

Again, thank you for your contribution.

Zachariel

Thank you Zachariel for the links to help further my understanding of sidereal and the methods you use for this interpretation.

“The Rulesbook translate this to: ‘death through fire-arms, fire, assassination’ (page 197). “

On the “death through fire-arms, fire”, I must remind everyone that Trump’s popularity started out on a reality television show, ‘The Apprentice’, where he often told people, “You’re fired”. Again, I can’t help thinking it’s his own Republican Party that ends up telling Trump, “You’re Fired!”. Uranus rules the 6th H of ‘work’ in the Natal with transits I uploaded here. Trump’s only ‘job’ is to get elected. I think something happens that makes him suddenly unpopular with his base. It’s going to happen quickly, whatever it is.

And thanks for sharing the YouTube video on Trump’s recent interview with the black news reporters. I, like many others, saw the ‘edited’ version of this interview. I didn’t know he was tricked into going on that interview under false pretenses. So thank you for the transparency, I appreciate it.

Also, I found more information for others who are seeking to expand their knowledge on Uranian Astrology: https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Uranian_Astrology

This is a great topic you started here! Thank you again for the links, I will read up to better understand your methods.

Hi Starz4U,
you could be right! Trump is a person who undoubtedly polarizes. Either people hate him as if he were the devil incarnate or they worship him like a god, at least in the USA.

If you want to find out more about Microastrology, I can highly recommend Cemal Çiçek's website http://cemalcicek.com/ where he explains in a publication (Link: https://ia601405.us.archive.org/20/item ... opical.pdf) why one should use the sidereal zodiac.

All his publications you can find (free of charge) on https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek .

But there is one "bottleneck" that people who sincerely show interest in Microastrology have to overcome. They must have the astrology software "ZET Geo" on their computers because at present only ZET Geo (author: Anatoly Zaytsev) is capable of providing the harmonic-calculations you will need when you want to rework the case-examples Cemal is providing in his publications. Here is the link that leads to ZET-Software: http://zaytsev.com/

I highly recommend that people rework Cemal's case-examples so that they can verify by themselve the theory of Microastrology using practical examples (or check Microastrology using examples of the respectives own life or the life of relatives/friends...)

Some information about Cemal you can find here: https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/%C ... 7ek,_Cemal

Today I have just posted my 49th case-study example with regard to "cancer disease". If you are interested in my posting on Skyscript Forum, you can find it her: https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12646

Again, thank you for your interest and also for your astrological contributions!

Best wishes,
Zachariel

Hi again Zachariel, I can’t help mentioning this on your post since it’s about ‘possible new danger for Donald Trump’. I, same as you, have been studying Trump’s chart and have noticed something consistent that bears mentioning. It’s his 5th H of ‘children, love affairs, gambling and speculation’. And it coincides with the dates you mention in October. Only it starts in late September. I’ll post his chart here if you don’t mind:

I noticed transiting Saturn in his 7th H of partnership, other people and open enemies in antiscia with his natal Chiron in his 2nd H of personal finances. Then Saturn (which is retrograde) is in antiscia with Jupiter, the ruler of his 5th H. BTW, Saturn rules all 30 degrees of Capricorn ‘hidden’ in his 5th H. What could this be that is hurting him financially? Another love affair? Is someone he had an affair with blackmailing him? What could this be? The second antiscia happens in October. Antiscia means ‘behind closed door’ activity. Is it a gambling debt? Something is going on here. Could this be what causes his downfall?

Hi Starz4U,
I have to apologize because at present I have no access to my computer, I am just answering using an old iPad.
I assume that we won‘t get the solution to the puzzle until after the end of October, if at all.
The astrology that is currently available to us is, as we all know, not an exact science. Even in exact sciences (e.g., physics) correct predictions often are quite a challenge.

I‘m sorry I can‘t respond to your astrological reasoning because I‘ve been out of traditional astrology for about twenty years. I still have some knowledge of this type of astrology from back then, but I don‘t feel knowleadgeable enough to enter into discussions.

However, I find it very exciting approaching the same question from different astrological ‚directions‘ and then compare the results.
Not least for this reason, I thank you for and appreciate your astrological analyses and conclusions with the type of astrology that you use.

Zachariel

Well then perhaps others will weigh in on this topic. We can’t be the ‘only’ ones who study the charts of elected officials using our own methods. I suppose we shall find out soon enough, one way or another. Thank you again for the opportunity to weigh in.