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Will it work out between me and my girlfriend?

1 by RainT6ddz
I'm writing herе, coming from a chart that I posted in January 19th here asking about if I'll find a partner with whom there'll be mutual love. I'm a girl and so is my partner. The chart was radical and worked, everything.
However I have a problem. It's so far an online dating and we'll meet in the same city, and chat and talk every day. However yesterday I had to go out with my new colleague who's also a girl. And since my girlfriend asked me what am I doing anyway I just mentioned it.
However she was very shut ever since then and has a task text on ig mentioning staying single and moving on. I'm really worried about this and think it's about me. I've asked lots of questions about her, but this IS serious now (that's why it could be late ascendant degree).
I am presented by Virgo and its ruler, Mercury. South node is near the ascendant so I really have some bad houghts about this relationship. She is presented by Jupiter, on the other hand. Both our rulers are in Cancer, which is Jupiter's exaltation.
In 7th house, near the descendant, there is Saturn is its fall, Aries. I think that she has some very distorted perceptions on what I told her. Also Jupiter's last aspect is with Saturn. So she did have or has some bad looks on our relationship. North bode is near the descendant however. I don't know currently what it would mean if it has something to do more with Saturn rather than 7th house only. Perhaps it shows some very cardinal approach of negative thoughts and it's in 12th house.
I'm asking anyway if the relationship between us two will eventually work out and things will be normal again. Jupiter being in Cancer, and considering the moon, that is the heart, in relationship questions, could mean that she still wants my heart. I've looked into any signs of communication and texted her but she doesn't respond. Jupiter is at 2 degrees. Mercury is in 22. They are separating. Looked at moon, as my second significator, but still. And it makes no sense, yet even if moon is fast, it'll first connunct with Venus. So there will be bo contact between us at all, I think :(

Asked at 13:03PM, 21.06.2025, Kavarna, Bulgaria, 5 kilometres away from my actual place that cannot be detected.
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Re: Will it work out between me and my girlfriend?

2 by Georgius
Lord of the hour is Mercury which is Lord of the ascendant too: For that matter the chart is radical and can be delineated. Irritating is the very late ascendant on 29°10' Virgo. Sue Ward writes that the late ascendant suggests that “they have missed there chance so to speak” or that “the situation […] will become irrelevant as they move into a new one with the impending change of sign.” It maybe that the matter is resolved already, she writes.

Saturn on the cusp of the 7th is eye-catching. Saturn is in fall and loves Mars the lord of the 7th. Mars resides in the 12th house of solitude. Saturn is in an applying square to the L12 Sun. There are hindrances to partnership and loneliness is accentuated.

Next aspect of the Moon is a conjunction with Venus, Lady of the 8th house of troubles but universal significator of love. She is located in the 8th and very strong by sign and triplicity. Strong affection causes troubles for you. Lilly writes that the aspect between Moon and Venus fulfills the affair but by intervention of friends. (?)

Mercury, lord of the first house and signifying the querent is located in the 11th house of friendship and support. Maybe this is what you get these days.

But, consider this late ascendant!
Circumstances are changing soon and you are young. An age where change is coming soon and quickly.

Re: Will it work out between me and my girlfriend?

3 by RainT6ddz
Georgius wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:43 am Lord of the hour is Mercury which is Lord of the ascendant too: For that matter the chart is radical and can be delineated. Irritating is the very late ascendant on 29°10' Virgo. Sue Ward writes that the late ascendant suggests that “they have missed there chance so to speak” or that “the situation […] will become irrelevant as they move into a new one with the impending change of sign.” It maybe that the matter is resolved already, she writes.

Saturn on the cusp of the 7th is eye-catching. Saturn is in fall and loves Mars the lord of the 7th. Mars resides in the 12th house of solitude. Saturn is in an applying square to the L12 Sun. There are hindrances to partnership and loneliness is accentuated.

Next aspect of the Moon is a conjunction with Venus, Lady of the 8th house of troubles but universal significator of love. She is located in the 8th and very strong by sign and triplicity. Strong affection causes troubles for you. Lilly writes that the aspect between Moon and Venus fulfills the affair but by intervention of friends. (?)

Mercury, lord of the first house and signifying the querent is located in the 11th house of friendship and support. Maybe this is what you get these days.

But, consider this late ascendant!
Circumstances are changing soon and you are young. An age where change is coming soon and quickly.

Thank you for the analysis! I was not sure if the chart is radical. We are texting again and everything is alright and we confessed actually. I thought that the ruler of 7th is Pisces, but you mention Mars. I think the descendant is in the very early degrees of Pisces that's why I looked for Jupiter. There was bo third person involved. Actually her friend texted me if I know anything about her but I was quite silent and just said hello. Otherwise my girlfriend began responding to me. I guess Saturn in 7th and relating to love might be because it rules my 5th house.
She said that basically the previous day felt bad because she wanted my attention. .... What's up with Sun and Saturn and 12th house? I see Sun in 10th.

Re: Will it work out between me and my girlfriend?

4 by Georgius
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm I was not sure if the chart is radical.
I am not sure either! :)
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm I thought that the ruler of 7th is Pisces, but you mention Mars. I think the descendant is in the very early degrees of Pisces that's why I looked for Jupiter.
Mars is co-ruler. The DC is at the very late degrees of Pisces and Aries is enclosed in the 7th if one uses Alcabitius houses as I do.
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm There was bo third person involved. Actually her friend texted me if I know anything about her but I was quite silent and just said hello.Otherwise my girlfriend began responding to me.
Sure her friend did not intervene?
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm I guess Saturn in 7th and relating to love might be because it rules my 5th house.
Hm, Luís Ribeiro says, the 5th was never associated with love, always the 7th.
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm She said that basically the previous day felt bad because she wanted my attention. .... What's up with Sun and Saturn and 12th house? I see Sun in 10th.
Ah, sorry! Yes, Sun is in 10th but rules the 12th (Alcabitius houses). I should have mentioned the house system I use. Saturn squares Sun and therefor solitude is emphasized double.

Re: Will it work out between me and my girlfriend?

5 by RainT6ddz
Georgius wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:47 pm
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm I was not sure if the chart is radical.
I am not sure either! :)
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm I thought that the ruler of 7th is Pisces, but you mention Mars. I think the descendant is in the very early degrees of Pisces that's why I looked for Jupiter.
Mars is co-ruler. The DC is at the very late degrees of Pisces and Aries is enclosed in the 7th if one uses Alcabitius houses as I do.
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm There was bo third person involved. Actually her friend texted me if I know anything about her but I was quite silent and just said hello.Otherwise my girlfriend began responding to me.
Sure her friend did not intervene?
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm I guess Saturn in 7th and relating to love might be because it rules my 5th house.
Hm, Luís Ribeiro says, the 5th was never associated with love, always the 7th.
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:20 pm She said that basically the previous day felt bad because she wanted my attention. .... What's up with Sun and Saturn and 12th house? I see Sun in 10th.
Ah, sorry! Yes, Sun is in 10th but rules the 12th (Alcabitius houses). I should have mentioned the house system I use. Saturn squares Sun and therefor solitude is emphasized double.
I'm mentioning 5th house since you said Saturn is in fall and in the sign of 7th. 5th is of, maybe, love, I think, but not the partner itself. I mean in a sexual matter. Even though in this chart I wouldn't look so much at it like that. Otherwise I wondered why'd you mention Saturn in this relationship in a positive matter.
Well my girlfriend has some problems with the staff in her current place. Mentally ill person harassed her, her colleagues at some point. And her friend texted me saying that she'd like the chat to be between just two of us without telling her. But I just said hello and accepted the request. Just thought that it's my girlfriend's decision and if she'd share anything to anyone.

Re: Will it work out between me and my girlfriend?

6 by Georgius
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:47 pm I'm mentioning 5th house since you said Saturn is in fall and in the sign of 7th. 5th is of, maybe, love, I think, but not the partner itself. I mean in a sexual matter.
Sex is the 7th traditionally. 5th is children, leisure, entertainment, art, …
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:47 pm Otherwise I wondered why'd you mention Saturn in this relationship in a positive matter.
Did I?
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:47 pm Well my girlfriend has some problems with the staff in her current place. Mentally ill person harassed her, her colleagues at some point.
Her house of partnership of all kinds and of open enemies is the radical 1st.
RainT6ddz wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:47 pm And her friend texted me saying that she'd like the chat to be between just two of us without telling her. But I just said hello and accepted the request. Just thought that it's my girlfriend's decision and if she'd share anything to anyone.
I would not read to much in this chart with this very, very late ascendant. And you see, change came quickly.
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