Will R be a reliable partner?

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The querent is a novice musician considering going into partnership with another more experienced musician he doesn't know too well, and wanted to know if the potential musical partner would be reliable?

21st March 2007, 4.50 pm GMT, Worcester, UK. Regiomontanus, 15 Virgo rising.

The querent is signified by Mercury and the Moon, Mercury in the sixth house of illness, in Detriment and Fall, and in a cadent house. This describes the querent as he has very recently had a major operation and is convalescing. The potential partner is shown by the ruler of the seventh house, Jupiter, in strong Essential and Accidental dignity, which again accurately describes the partner as he is a strong performer with a lot of performing experience. The querent holds the potential partner in high esteem (Jupiter in Ruleship of Mercury), but the potential partner has little regard for the querent (Mercury in the Detriment of Jupiter). This would make sense within the context of the question as the querent has little musical experience whereas the potential partner is a strong performer with a good reputation.

There is no aspect between Mercury and Jupiter, or the Moon and Jupiter, which I interpreted as there being no partnership between them as yet. What worried me was Uranus being smack dab on the cusp of the house of partnership, which I interpreted as sudden and unepected changes in their partnership. I was also worried about the South Node being right on the Ascendant, and was unsure if this was just further testimony of the querents poor health.

To sum up I'm confused that the potential partner shows so strong, (Jupiter in Sagittarius) therefore would be a reliable partner, but Uranus on the cusp of the house of partnership suggests unreliability! Could anyone shed any light on this? Thanks!
H.

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I would pay attention to that Uranus placement (although I do go on about ignoring outer planets...), especially with the South Node opposing it. This partnership may not be so fortuitous or promising for the querent, especially as the Moon is making no aspect to Jupiter.

Best,
GH

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Hi Gunhilde,

thanks for your input, yes, I was taught to take notice of the outer planets if they're significantly placed, as here right on the cusp of the house in question. If Jupiter wasn't so strongly placed I'd definitely judge that the potential partner wouldn't be reliable.
H.

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I was just thinking as well: Mercury is detrimented right now, and applies to square Jupiter. Okay, it's a long time coming, but Jupiter will soon go retrograde and go back to meet it.

I'm wondering if the partnership will develop, with some struggle and effort to get there (the square), but then Jupiter backs out of it (Rx) eventually. With Jupiter so strong and Mercury so weak and in Jupiter's influence, the Jupiter person may decide that it's not worth his while as he's 'getting less' out of it...? Hence the Uranus/Dsc aspect.

Food for thought

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Hello Harlequin,

In a traditional approach, the Moon would be judged void of course because it is not within orb of an applying aspect to a traditional planet. This indicates a period of limbo or confusion.

Does the ?reliable partner? question pertain to income earning on the querent?s part? If so, consider that querent?s Lord 2 (Venus) is separating from querent?s sig (Mercury) due to Mercury?s slow speed having recently stationed direct. Querent?s money is moving away from him, not towards him. This may describe his current finances.

On another note (oh pun) Jupiter (partner?s sig) is applying to querent?s part of fortune in 2nd house seeming to indicate partner will bring querent good fortune ? alas Jupiter turns RX before it gets there (a tease). At the moment, I do not see financial benefit coming to querent from this partnership, but I will look again later when I have more time. Then again money may be unrelated to the reliability question. I will wait to hear from you.

One thing I do not like is the Moon?s next few aspects. After the limbo state (provided querent even gets through that) the Moon?s next aspect is sextile Des/uranus/NN and then square Mars and Saturn without reception.
the potential partner has little regard for the querent (Mercury in the Detriment of Jupiter).
I am confused by what you mean here. Mercury in Pisces is in the dignity (home sign) of Jupiter. Even though it is Mercury?s detriment, Jupiter will offer a reception to a planet in its home. There is no aspect between them so the reception is called liberality and does not give the full benefits of an aspect reception.
I was also worried about the South Node being right on the Ascendant, and was unsure if this was just further testimony of the querents poor health.
Perhaps it is the poor health as you say. However, sometimes with SN on Asc the querent gives more to the partner (to the 7th) and this might be querent?s downfall (partner takes from querent).

Another take might be to just look at partner's reliability. Jupiter does trine Saturn (general stability and reliability). Then there is that Uranus square. Might mean a sudden change coming for (or from) the partner person. Jupiter is at the bendings (square nodes). Any planet at the bendings is usually a negative.

Just some thoughts. I will have another look later.

Christina

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Hi Christina,

thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated. Although there would be some (little) income from the partnership, this isn't the main reason for its formation as the querent is already in business, so for him it's for enjoyment and his development as a musician.

Jupiter soon turning Rx suggests to me that the potential partner will have a change of heart and for the querent therefore is unreliable. This seems to reinforce all the other negative testimony in the chart (Uranus on the Descendant for example) so on balance I would advise the querent to proceed with caution and to "expect the unexpected" with this potential partner.
best wishes,
H