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1 by usefor
Hi
my question is about a friend of mine who had separated from his lover about a year ago and now he's interested in her again, in getting back together
i wonder if my friend will be a couple again with his ex, if he really will get together with her
31.10.2007, 5h52am,Galati, Romania
Ac is at 26,30 Libra (i don't know what this means:my question is too late,kind of they are already together, or the moment it's too late for they beeing a couple :shock: )

the confusion is bigger when i consider the significators for my question
me:house 1 in libra, ruler Venus in 11 (i must say i do not interfere in their affair, i even dont know the ex lover of my friend)
my friend:house 11 in Virgo, ruler Mercure R in 12
his ex :the 7th of 11, so house 5 in pisces,ruler Jup
Moon in Cancer-the solution of the question, as Jup as well
and i made the supposition :their relationship will not work, it's hard to beleave my friend will be a real couple wth his ex



this is my version
but someone gave me another one:they (my friend and his ex )as already a couple, represented by house 7(opposite to me )in Aries, Mars separated from Moon, but the first aspect of the Moon will be to Venus (ruler of the second, of the 6th and the 7th of the house 7) and so that the answer :yes, he will be a couple with her


what do you think about it?

2 by Tara
Ac is at 26,30 Libra (i don't know what this means:my question is too late,kind of they are already together, or the moment it's too late for they beeing a couple
27-29 degrees is too late. 26 degrees is not too late, and there is hour agreement which suggests the chart is radical.

If your friend asked you to do the chart, he should be signified by the ascendant and its ruler. In this case, the moon translates the light from Mars, L7 to Venus, L1, which says yes they will reconnect.

If, on the other hand, you were "just wondering" about your friend's relationship prospects, and asked to satisfy your own curiousity, I'd go with you as the ascendant ruler (your placement in the 11th shows your interest in what happens to your friend). In this case, L.11 is your friend and L.5 is his ex-lover. They do not come together in an aspect of any kind, nor is there translation or collection of light, so they will not come back together.

So it all hinges on this: did your friend ask you to do a horary chart for this question?

Tara

3 by usefor
not at all
this question is entirely mine,because of my curiosity
that person i mentionned took my curiosity as an interest of mine in my friend (more than friendly)...but i didn't agree( i have no direct contact with the potential couple, i don't know the ex of my friend,distant friend in fact )

ABOUT SEEING A COUPLE AGAIN.

5 by Julie K
usefor,

Horary Astrology is not used for curiosity - your own curiosity isnt a valid reason to ask about the personal lives of others, even if they are family, unless they themsleves make the request of you. You cannot use curiosity as a tool for the self.

Sorry if this sounds blunt, but it is none of your business - it's just the way things are with Horary.

Julie K

6 by usefor
hello Julie!
i don't mind your biting remark, it's just a point of view
i 'm really and often worried about my friends and other intimate persons, i think we are not isolated but 'combined' by love, friendship,...by any other feeling or interest

WILL THEY BECOME A COUPLE?

7 by Julie K
usefor,

I can understand your intentions and considerations towards friends are well meant but unless the Quesited has contacted you to ask a Horary question you just cant do this.

If you reverse the situation: others asking sensitive questions about the self makes us feel very vunerable - things we wish to keep private are not for open discussion.

The Universe has a way of telling us to go no further - the chart may not be radical and we really cannot get an answer.

Some friends wished to know ahead of time the sex of a new baby coming into my family. The new parents did not wish to know till the birth - the chart had an early degree rising - too early to ask the question! :)

Julie K

8 by Tara
My first thought was that the question wouldn't be rooted properly if it was asked out of idle curiousity. And yet the fact is that this chart is radical. It even has hour agreement. I think we need to let the chart tell us whether it's okay to read it or not and usefor's chart has none of the strictures against judgment so I take it the universe did not mind her asking the question.

Tara

9 by kerenhappuch
I've asked questions about my friends out of curiosity before and I must say that they have always worked. Not relationships, but things like exams and driving tests. I agree with Tara's point that if the universe doesn't mind us asking then the chart will be radical. Otherwise, the chart will not be readable :) I have yet to ask a question about a friend that the universe says "NO!" to, but if I do I'll add it to this thread!

Keren

10 by cosmicdolphin
Hi

I have to agree with Julie. It is NONE of your business not because you do not need to care about your friend but because you cannot change or influence a situation.. if you were to ask, should i or will i be able to bring 2 people together, that would fit what Keren and Julie are saying. However, you are just a bystander. Horary works great when you are personally involved. the classic example of such horary can be found if you search for "will madeleine mccann be found?" People are curious will she be found but it is not the same intensity as would be coming from her family or people who actually knew her.

Then there is another side, lets say you andyour friend are talking "hey do you think i will get back with my x?" Then the question is valid because the question is asked for your opinion which sticks with you being or not being an astrologer. Or the person has been asking you for an advice on such manner that it drives you CRAZY to a point you almost feel like you are a part of the equation. THEN the chart becomes valid.

in any case, the horary should not be "ohh i am curious will they get back togehter?" it is equavalent to "will Angelina Jolie ever marry Brad Pitt?"

make sense?
CD

11 by usefor
maybe it's exactly how i feel, part of the equation,cause i'm fond of my friend

i don't consider the intimacy to a such high level,everyone is allowed to be interested in everyone's life if that is good for him and if this doesn't cause damage to the other(and me i didn't use my friend's name)
we live in a society...after all

12 by kerenhappuch
I've just remembered that I did once ask about the relationship of my brother - whether he would stay together with his girlfriend or not. That chart was pretty unreadable - just didn't make any sense in context, didn't fit in with what I knew of the situation. I think that chart was a pretty clear example of the universe saying "Nope, nothing to see here, move along now, none of your business!"

All my other questions asked about friends or relations have been about factual info that was public, rather than personal feelings or relationships. I guess the universe is telling us not to pry into other people's private feelings if we're not involved in the relationship ourselves!

Keren
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